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Originally posted by muse7
It's funny how everyone is attributing this to the power of God but totally forgetting the people who truly saved the mother and child.
Science 1
God 0
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by muse7
It's funny how everyone is attributing this to the power of God but totally forgetting the people who truly saved the mother and child.
Science 1
God 0
Ahem... Well, you worship your god (science) which brought us nuclear bombs, chemical warfare, hormone-enhanced meat, etc. I'll stick with the carpenter from Nazareth.
I'm not playing a game. I'm very serious. And you know as well as I do that there is nothing in the Bible that forbids me to use medical care. But when the doctors and nurses can't save a life, as they couldn't in this case, then one who believes in God doesn't throw their hands up in despair. They do not rail at God as unbelievers do. A believer folds their hands, in prayer, because they know their God is the God of 'lost causes'.
Originally posted by muse7
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by muse7
It's funny how everyone is attributing this to the power of God but totally forgetting the people who truly saved the mother and child.
Science 1
God 0
Ahem... Well, you worship your god (science) which brought us nuclear bombs, chemical warfare, hormone-enhanced meat, etc. I'll stick with the carpenter from Nazareth.
I don't worship anyone.
But if you want to play that game, don't bother going to a Hospital when you suffer a life threatening injury. Just pray to God that you survive.
Originally posted by noonebutme
Well, it's a great thing that both mother and son are alive and well.
But a miracle or message from God, hardly. These things do happen and to suggest that "God" had something to do with it implies he favours some more than others. And that's not what an all loving, all understanding, impartial omnipotent being should be.
Either way, glad both mum and son were fine. Can't believe God let them die in the first place..
Originally posted by novacs4me
I'm not playing a game. I'm very serious. And you know as well as I do that there is nothing in the Bible that forbids me to use medical care. But when the doctors and nurses can't save a life, as they couldn't in this case, then one who believes in God doesn't throw their hands up in despair. They do not rail at God as unbelievers do. A believer folds their hands, in prayer, because they know their God is the God of 'lost causes'.
Originally posted by muse7
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by muse7
It's funny how everyone is attributing this to the power of God but totally forgetting the people who truly saved the mother and child.
Science 1
God 0
Ahem... Well, you worship your god (science) which brought us nuclear bombs, chemical warfare, hormone-enhanced meat, etc. I'll stick with the carpenter from Nazareth.
I don't worship anyone.
But if you want to play that game, don't bother going to a Hospital when you suffer a life threatening injury. Just pray to God that you survive.
If mankind has to take responsibility for the death of billions, then mankind can take responsibility for these little "miracles". God doesn't have that right.
Originally posted by semperfortis
reply to post by Republican08
The Lord doesn't kill millions, in fact He doesn't kill anyone.. We do.
We have free choice and sin rules this world until Jesus comes again.
The Lord just steps in and does little miracles like this from time to time to show us he is still here, still waiting on the most hardened of us to come to Him and not spend eternity suffering.
All the suffering in the world? Look in the mirror; it's out fault and our responsibility.
What a wonderful event.
Semper
Originally posted by novacs4me
The God of the Bible did favor the nation of Israel, and He still does. He listens to the prayers of those who trust Him (which apparently doesn't include you) [very much correct]. I trust Him, and He has been so good to me for the past 30 years that I have to believe that He has shown me great favor. I don't deserve it, nor does Israel, but God is God. We don't get to decide who He will favor and who He will not.
Originally posted by novacs4me
reply to post by noonebutme
I guess I failed to make my point. God is God, and you aren't, and I'm not. Is that clear enough?
...you can find your place in it, or waste your life chasing after things that don't matter.
Originally posted by novacs4me
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So ask yourself the next time you hurl your worst invectives at the one you don't believe in, is it logical?
Originally posted by kiwifoot
Aww, a bit of a Christmas miracle always goes down well.
[edit on 30-12-2009 by kiwifoot]