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Topic started on 30-12-2009 @ 04:29 AM by kiwifoot

'Dead' mother and baby revived after Christmas Eve birth


Telegraph.co.uk
A woman has apparently come back to life after "dying" during childbirth while her newborn son was also miraculously revived by doctors.

Tracy Hermanstorfer went into cardiac arrest and stopped breathing during labour, said Dr. Stephanie Martin, a maternal fetal medicine specialist at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

"She had no signs of life. No heartbeat, no blood pressure, she wasn't breathing," said Dr Martin. "The baby was, it was basically limp, with a very slow heart rate."
(visit the link for the full news article)


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reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 04:46 AM by TaraLou
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WOW! S & F.

I sense a message here, definitely.

I think God is trying to tell us something (we are dumb and He has spent a long time trying to get through to us).


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:02 AM by Republican08
Originally posted by TaraLou
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post by kiwifoot



WOW! S & F.

I sense a message here, definitely.

I think God is trying to tell us something (we are dumb and He has spent a long time trying to get through to us).


lol.... what?

A kind of okay life saving thing happens, in a non third world country, and omg it's a miracle from god, especially since it's in a holiday time?

Bring me all the people that needlessly died of TB, Malaria, Aids, gang violence, and those who were molested and raped all on that day, and it will be quickly over shadowed.

Looking at one good thing, and chalking it up to "the hand of god" whilst neglecting the years and years of training the doctors went through, and their dedication, and undermining them, just fumes me!

I mean kudos to them, but to take that one incident, and say look what a great god, who lets doctors study science and let that science save me, and neglect all other people who needlessly died, is stupid.

I could even go further to say that all three people the father mother and child, will do nothing in their lives at all, just cause.

A real work of god, that I would believe, is when a surge of supplies goes to africa, that would impress me, or tb medicine, or even just the pope overturning that condom bull&***, till then a mild in the hospital of a advanced society 'miracle' isn't considered a miracle, just someone saying something to get publicity.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:14 AM by TaraLou
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Please lighten up!

Yes, all you are saying is true.

Aren't we allowed to believe in miracles any more?

Or does it just have to be the usual doom and gloom.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:18 AM by Republican08
Originally posted by TaraLou
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post by Republican08



Please lighten up!

Yes, all you are saying is true.

Aren't we allowed to believe in miracles any more?

Or does it just have to be the usual doom and gloom.



Doom, gloom, always For the world

Miracle it isn't, sure it's great but still, if someone claims god saved some nobody, why is he murdering millions...... illogical lol

Then again, it's the holidays, the most depressing times of the years, just trying to keep with the times



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:31 AM by TaraLou
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I beg to correct you.

It IS a miracle. You say it is not a miracle - do you think that it is not a miracle for that saved mother and baby, and for their families and friends?

Of course it is a miracle!

And how do you know when something is or is not a miracle?

Answer: You don't, and none of us do.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:33 AM by TaraLou
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I beg to correct you.

It IS a miracle. You say it is not a miracle - do you think that it is not a miracle for that saved mother and baby, and for their families and friends?

Of course it is a miracle!

And how do you know when something is or is not a miracle?

Answer: You don't, and none of us do.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:35 AM by Republican08
Originally posted by TaraLou
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I beg to correct you.

It IS a miracle. You say it is not a miracle - do you think that it is not a miracle for that saved mother and baby, and for their families and friends?

Of course it is a miracle!

And how do you know when something is or is not a miracle?

Answer: You don't, and none of us do.


Although oddly enough cause I can't fully explain it, it is a miracle... I forgo that.

Although, the needless deaths of millions, shouldn't be overcasted by one tiny 'miracle'.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 05:42 AM by TaraLou
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Thanks for conceding that point, Rep.

I do agree. The death of millions of people is horrendous.

But what can we do?

Since humans have been on this planet they have slaughtered others.

We cannot change human nature, but we can rejoice in miracles.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 06:19 AM by semperfortis
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The Lord doesn't kill millions, in fact He doesn't kill anyone.. We do.

We have free choice and sin rules this world until Jesus comes again.

The Lord just steps in and does little miracles like this from time to time to show us he is still here, still waiting on the most hardened of us to come to Him and not spend eternity suffering.

All the suffering in the world? Look in the mirror; it's out fault and our responsibility.

What a wonderful event.

Semper


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 06:29 AM by TaraLou
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Happy NY to you!

Man was born with that killing nature - it is not mankind's fault.

But it is his downfall.

This is preplanned.



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 01:08 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by semperfortis



People die from accidents all the time, I guarantee you there was a woman and child in the same situation, who did not survive.
It's not all our fault, from the explanation in the article, it seems as likely God caused her heart attack he supposedly saved her from.
People die literally all of the time, from disease, from accidents, from any number of things we can't prevent, no matter how hard we try.
Placing the blame on our shoulders is hardly fair.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 03:40 PM by semperfortis
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It is completely fair..

We are sinful, God is not.

He gives us free choice, we sin, bad things happen. Remember that until Jesus returns, Satan is alive and well here on earth and has dominion.

The Lord steps in from time to time and does his miracles, but we also need to remember that we can no more understand him than a flea can understand us.

I'll take this for exactly what it appears to be. Wonderful.

Easy

Semper
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