reply to post by poet1b
We were not in on the 90's tech stock bubble. You would need to have "excess" to invest. Hard as it is to believe, no. We fared better under Bush
but that could simply have been from a decade of earned pay raises not entitlements I will grant you. We certainly did not go backwards.
Yes, we are in agreement on the shifting. The rats are trying to find a safe house prior to the 2010 elections. For instance, when was the last time
McCain got off his bi-partisan pedestal? He didn't say boo last summer as this travesty was taking shape. But on the edge of the precipice when the
outcome is inevitable he grows a spine? It just so happens he is up for re-election in 2010. I didn't need a crystal ball or Google to tell me that.
I saw his bad acting for what it is. He is after all the phony conservative that took a dive in the last election. Why should anyone think he has
changed his stripes? But some still support him, what can I say about that? I firmly believe if the Republican votes were needed to cram through this
bill they would have them. Lindsey Graham and McCain would be there in a heartbeat. This health care bill or better stated health insurance bill is so
complex that you can argue in favor or against and show justification for either stance. It's a money grab at heart and nothing more. These Rinos are
not needed that's why the Democrats have "shut them out". That's for our benefit. That's to convince us not to throw out all
incumbents in November including the Rinos. The controllers don't own third party candidates and don't want to honestly compete. They've legislated
to effectively exclude third party candidates long ago but these people leave nothing to chance.
The historical roles played by the parties have shifted over the decades. That's true and will continue as needed. Many of the working and middle
class still see the Democrats as their saviors but that has shifted as you noted. The Dems and Obama drew support from the working class with their
anti-war stance as the working class noticed they were cannon fodder once again. But in general lose your job and/or get heavily taxed and your hope
for change goes out the _ But you mention that the Dems have been courting the minorities and immigrants and I say paving the way for legalizing
tens of millions of those immigrants. The poor still don't have a pot to piss in but they haven't seen a down-grade and the immigrants still see
this country as better than home. And so the poor (Acorn coaxed and bribed) and these "new citizens" will continue to line up behind their
Democratic buddies who are undercutting the working class jobs making it once again more
profitable for big industry to hire and manufacture
here. I emphasize more
as it was always profitable but we're talking unbridled greed.
NAFTA did nothing more than bounce exploitation of the working class from country to country and continent to continent. From Mexico to Indonesia to
Korea to China to Ireland and India. I know I'm forgetting a few and have them out of sequence. These nations are all left holding an empty bag just
like the US where it all started and now it has come back around to us as we
are now on the verge of becoming a third world nation. Prime
pickings. Just look at Detroit and Cleveland. The stage is set, there is plenty of available housing. You can fit multiple shifts of immigrant workers
into a modest sized home in the suburbs of these once important manufacturing centers. We see this where I live just outside NYC. My wife works for a
real estate lawyer and she sees this daily. Someone trying to sell a home where inspection reveals every room has been sublet to multiple people.
Rooms divided with cardboard, camping stoves, you name it. Everything's in place for a stimulus supported "urban renewal". The remaining global
manufacturers, company stores as I like to call them, will come back and look like white knights for doing so. Buying up the vacant blocks for next to
nothing to build their "green" factories. You and I will be forced by "green" legislation to replace the few remaining items of value we have long
before their useful demise. My truck is ten years old, runs like a top, no smoke, always passes the emission testing, I pay for preventative
maintenance, support my local mechanic, treat it like it should last forever and for what? To be convinced by the "cash for clunkers" scam that the
country and the world is better with it in a landfill? Light bulbs ring a bell? A fifty cent item becoming ten dollars overnight and toxic to boot.
The energy savings was touted from the outset but the toxicity was downplayed, thank you AlGore and your 12 times the avg energy use Nashville
mansion. Oh yes he improved that and why not? He could throw all kinds of money at it once he replaced his tobacco earnings with the ill-gotten gains
from his movie and "green" investments. Renovating the house was a drop in the bucket for this elitist puppet. He would have garnered so much more
cred if he had done so prior to his environmental preaching but he underestimated the chance someone would call BS on him. That's how little respect
these elitists have for anyone. Our throw-away society on steroids. That's not a shade of green I am comfortable with.
This is a tag-team match. One wrestler holds us and the other kicks us in the groin. I think Obama and his socialist scams will be viewed as
relatively benign when compared to the guy that replaces him. I'm not saying that out of the convenience of the unknown. I truly think that with the
next pendulum shift and the next wrestler to "tag in" we will feel the pain. If I seem all over the map here, well that's the reality. We are being
attacked on multiple fronts by a single enemy. One party.