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Reply to Lasheid
Thanks for posting those videos Lasheid, I must admit however, that lately I have been having problems with my router and find it difficult to get the
images of video to play properly. For this reason I was unable to watch the videos you posted. I hope to have this problem fixed some time before
the new year but at this time I struggle getting my wireless signal just be strong enough to get on line, let alone watch videos. It is yet another
frustration I deal with these days. (Sigh). I feel fortunate enough to get online and post what I do.
I am familiar with Chomsky and have read a few of his books and some of his essays and other writings. He is an enigma to me on certain issues as I
find his work illuminating and beneficial but I do not much care for some of his politics. I tend to agree with him on his assessment of media
censorship and some other issues but on others we part ways in a big way. His views on political power tend to confound me as he is an advocate of
anarchy or as he would put it; anarcho-syndicalism or a nicer phrase I guess would be libertarian socialism.
I think it is telling that he reduces legitimate power to examples such as a parent who uses force to prevent their child from doing dangerous things.
While such power is no doubt justified, when taken to its logical extension in politics we wind up with a nanny state that seems to embody the very
kind of illegitimate power he rails against. I also agree with him that contracting oneself out to an employer for a low wage is just a form of
slavery and should be avoided when ever possible, yet his advocacy of "worker owned" businesses is a language I believe belongs in doublespeak.
A worker owned business would be the vast amount of small businesses that exist today where the owner of that business is essentially the primary
worker as well. If that businessman develops his or her business to a point that more workers are needed, in most cases the wages offered for such
employment will often times equal slave wages not worthy of a lifetime investment by the worker who contracts out for the work. The idea that the
worker should be afforded an owner status just because they have agreed to help out in some of the duties required seems to dismiss the very real and
hard work the owner first put in to develop the business to the point where it required extra help and discounts the fact that owner will still be
working hard to maintain the business and keep it expanding.
Chomsky and I both are opposed to the "war on drugs" yet just another phrase of doublespeak since this so called war does not in anyway conform to
the standards of wars fought since time immemorial and seems to have no endgame to it just an ever self perpetuating agenda of imprisoning people for
behavior that is not a crime. All in all I find Chomsky and interesting man who has taught me much about linguistics. His book; Syntactic
was a great read.
As to Steven Pinker, I know far less but have been aware of him and would love to read his books How the Mind Works
and The Stuff of
. Hopefully I will get this router problem fixed through my wireless provider and have an opportunity to watch the videos you supplied.
Thanks for adding your input.
Reply to henriquefd
Thank you for your thoughtful and interesting post. I think one of the most important aspects of communication is in listening, (or in the case of
the internet; reading), carefully to what the other person is saying. Yet another importance is understanding the emotional level that person is at
and the appropriate emotional level to use yourself when engaging that person. If the person who you described, the angry customer, is met with an
emotional level below anger and not above it, then the communication exchange will crumble into non-communicative battle. However, if their
emotional level is met with an emotional level way above that of anger, that too can backfire and create a problem.
Communication is key and many times the trick is to simply listen to what is being said, especially if one hopes to understand what the other person
is saying. Thanks so much for your input.
Reply to Sirnex
You have come close to the heart of the matter with the doublespeak phrase "preemptive self defense". We can't hurt others simply because we fear
them, there must be a good reason to harm another, which brings us close to what Chomsky is presumably getting at with "justified power". However,
if someone, or as in the case of nations, some other country begins issuing threats, this is a justification for self defense.
In the United States the act of threatening another is known as assault and is a crime. While we all possess the freedom of speech threatening others
comes with a consequence and the action of that speech is one that creates harm. Yet another reason to speak the language of truth for if a person
issues empty threats and then feels there was no justification for the reaction to those lies, they are simply guilty of falling prey to their own
deception. Thanks for your input, sometimes a brief remark using brevity is all that is required.
Reply to butcherguy
Thanks for your encouragement. Communication can be so difficult that sometimes no matter how hard I try, there will be someone who has a problem
with what I said. That, however, is what debate and reasonable discourse is for. You keep spreading the truth too brother!
Reply to Asktheanimals
Thanks for your kind words and adding to that list of doublespeak phrases. "The science is settled" is a term that only really belongs to a very
few principles or laws of physics and even then some scientist comes along and introduces quantum mechanics and all of a sudden much that was
"settled" becomes questioned and for many the whole idea of quantum mechanics is rather unsettling.
In the end, we have many problems of communication that in order to correct them, require much more than just the facility of language. Indeed,
language involves more than vocal or written words and it is as important to come to understand what a person hasn't said as what has been said. I
wish I were better at communication and all too often fall prey to the very things I rail against...(sigh).