Aug 8 2009 Arlington Texas UFO - A MASSIVE coverup

Originally posted by fleabit
Well, after reading this..

Police escorts were forcing people to exit and shutting down ramps getting onto the highway.

Which was wrote in August, well I guess that my theory that no one had reported being pulled over was wrong. Apparently they were.

Of course, that doesn't make this story true, anyone with knowledge of that story could easily come up with this latest clandestine report.

I wish for once, someone would grow a pair and admit exactly what they were involved in. It's difficult to believe stories from unfounded sources, who can provide no proof whatsoever.

"I hereby testify that Mister X, who WAS there, is like, totally "in the know" really is telling the truth, and this is like, SO not made up!"

Without further proofs, this is fable. A fairy tale. At least Roswell was backed up with 110 witnesses. This has what.. 1?

I'd say at least a few dozen witnesses of police involvement, loud explosions and flashes on the night of the events. So, while the interview itself is unverifiable, the video of the saucer on the truck is consistent with all the reports which happened just as the explosions were happening.

www.topix.net...

Thanks, and enjoy reading them.

-rrr

Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread. Unfortunately for the last 24 hours I have been trapped in a huge GLOBAL WARMING event. I am in the south of Ukraine on the Black Sea and we had a huge blizzard the likes of which nobody here has seen before in the middle of December. Thanks to Al "I created the Internet" Gore for making the Sun decide to show him exactly what runs the climate on Earth.

After a night of freezing my butt with no heat, electricity, internet or mobile phone service I am back.

I am of the opinion that what happened in Arlington was the controlled landing of a U.S. reverse engineered craft belonging to the black space program that is hiding from those of us who have paid for it the secret of anti-gravity propulsion and Zero Point Energy. I think they knew enough in advance that it was in trouble to get to it and get it out of there quick.

I am convinced enough of it that I will when I get back to the states further investigate what happened and try myself to find witnesses to the event.

THE SECRECY MUST STOP.

The power source for craft like that can be used to power everything from homes to factories to automobiles and obviously aircraft of all types at a cost of NOTHING beyond original construction cost. There is no radiation and it is totally non-polluting. We will NEVER get access to it, nor will there be disclosure until this insanity is brought to an end. Man is not warming the Earth, but we are polluting our environment by burning fossil fuels and there is no reason for it other than to line the pockets of the elite and keep us in their control.

This technology belongs to US not them alone.

Those of you who are trying to derail threads like this and the exposure of this technology so that it can benefit mankind are Traitors pure and simple and as they say "what goes around comes around".

The meek will have their day, and this thread will rise again.

If anyone in the Dallas/Arlington area has any info or would like me to contact them when I am in the Dallas area...please U2U

Thanks

Originally posted by Chuck C
Does anyone care to tell me why the military wouldn't invest in a tarp to cover this thing, and secure the tarp to the sides of the trailer? It just seems odd that they would allow something secretive to be seen at all by civillians on the road.

Maybe it's part of disclosure! Let people talk bout it.. it works!

This gent comments that according to several witnesses the object was smoking.

A tarp would have been contraindicated if an outgassing due to heat was in effect.

ufos.about.com...

This resolves the tarp need. It could not be covered.

I would also like to add that the Military does not go without planning movements of secret or security oriented materials. You don't call the cops to come out for escorts. The military owns the Interstates. They were specifically designated as such in order to defend our borders back in the fifties. If they want to move something they just call out the bullyboys in green.

If they called out the local enforcement types, it was an emergency.

When I participated in convoys, back in the USAF in the sixties, we just ran up on the ramps and closed off entry if our orders said to. This was just normal old procedure. We would do the same on any road as required by our mission.

DO you think anyone argued with fifty trucks of armed dudes? We didn't use any special warning lights either. Just fierce grins.

"I wish for once, someone would grow a pair and admit exactly what they were involved in. It's difficult to believe stories from unfounded sources, who can provide no proof whatsoever."

This is the greatest mystery to me.
I suspect that the offer can not be refused when it's tendered. It could be that they are hostages. It could be that the KNOWN future is so dire and that they are offered a way out either for themselves-families-or some organization that they are aligned with.

It's exceedingly strange that the PTB is so tightly organized that no one in the US has popped the bubble with a presentation of what is known. Therefore the cost of revelation has to be beyond measurement, at least by our commoners' standards.

What would that be?

reply to post by Mr_skepticc


Excellent report Mr. Skeptic! Thanks a million. The truth, no matter how mundane and boring, is always preferable to fantasy.

Originally posted by largo
This gent comments that according to several witnesses the object was smoking.

A tarp would have been contraindicated if an outgassing due to heat was in effect.

ufos.about.com...

This resolves the tarp need. It could not be covered.

I would also like to add that the Military does not go without planning movements of secret or security oriented materials. You don't call the cops to come out for escorts. The military owns the Interstates. They were specifically designated as such in order to defend our borders back in the fifties. If they want to move something they just call out the bullyboys in green.

If they called out the local enforcement types, it was an emergency.

When I participated in convoys, back in the USAF in the sixties, we just ran up on the ramps and closed off entry if our orders said to. This was just normal old procedure. We would do the same on any road as required by our mission.

DO you think anyone argued with fifty trucks of armed dudes? We didn't use any special warning lights either. Just fierce grins.

So they dont make heat resistant tarps? Its not something i've looked into but I find it hard to believe they dont. Maybe they couldnt get 1 in time? But I find that hard to believe aswell... A chopper could fly a heat resistant tarp across in no time.

However I still have to agree that there is something weird about all of this and that thing on the back was moved in a hurry and for good reason. The tarp thing just doesnt sit right with me. Even if this was part of a plane or whatever it should still be covered over with something. So why wasnt it?

Originally posted by Chuck C
Does anyone care to tell me why the military wouldn't invest in a tarp to cover this thing, and secure the tarp to the sides of the trailer? It just seems odd that they would allow something secretive to be seen at all by civillians on the road.

They just want to get it out of site as quick as possible, and away from the crash site. No time to tarp it, let alone find a tarp. 'Out of site, out of mind'!

Well I have to say that I have had no time to check these forums lately, it has been a while. So I am finally getting the chance to see and read this post added. I must say this is interesting and strange. I can add that to those saying that this is a F-35 Joint Strike Force Jet or parts of one need to familiarize yourself with the F-35. This does not come close to looking like a fuselage, or the wing section of the jet in question, regardless of wings or no wings. I can't say though that it is not a fuselage of a different craft, or parts of one. I find it strange that radio stations will deny broadcast, though at the same time someone can call and talk to Mr. whoever and find information about said incident. Just not buying that information. If someone was to call..I am sure there would be a little bit more to it than that my friend, unless to make it easy to give false information, which is so easy. Regardless very interesting and thank you for your post OP.

[edit on 17-12-2009 by ejaylinz]

You know after looking this over again, I still don't see a F-35 or 22 or 18 or 16 or whatever.
Anyone who can say it does, is in my opinion, blind as a bat or from one of the alphabet soup companies.

And one more thing....Mr Skeptic, where are the names and the answers to my questions from yesterday? Or was your last post today suppose to cover everything? You did type a real tear jerker of a post. Now that your emotional rant is over, can you please follow through with what you said you were going to do.

Just skimming through some images and came across this... This is ALOT more likely what went down the other night! From the back at night on a speeding semi, this could possibly look like whats in the photos...

www.boeing.com...

Dont really know much about it, but looks like the size is approx the same, and is pretty bad ass looking!

reply to post by bugstomper


If they wanted time, they could simply say that they dropped radioactive material, or that a missile crashed, or that a fighter crashed...

They don't need to make sloppy work. They can control everything if they want to.

Running down the highway with a UFO on a truck, doesn't seem plausible since "those guys" are the same that keep alien existence a secret.

reply to post by expat2368


ah - they had time to get :

a truck

a crane [ how do you think it got on the truck ? ]

a black ops team

a police escort [ " fully briefed " ]

but they didnt have time to sheet and rope the load

hint - the driver keeps the ropes and tarps on his truck

and it doesnt take long to do

lastly - as you are obsessed with the notion of urgency , and the ` cover of darkness ` - then what happened at dawn ????

did it just vanish ?????????????????

Originally posted by Jersey Devil
Just skimming through some images and came across this... This is ALOT more likely what went down the other night! From the back at night on a speeding semi, this could possibly look like whats in the photos...

www.boeing.com...

Dont really know much about it, but looks like the size is approx the same, and is pretty bad ass looking!

Thanks for bringing this to attention. It does have the right size, although the shape is questionable. It takes a lot of imagination to match the shapes.

It also would not explain the explosions coming from the genera areal around midnight that night, which I find suspicious and could have had something to do with the object on the back of the flatbed.

And it finally does not explain why this thread as well as every other thread has so many government people posing as ATSrs. They know who they are.

Now, here is how you can tell that they are agents:

Look at the stereotypical skeptic like Phage, he is a GOOD skeptic, because he will present evidence and not spend so much emphasizing the conclusions, the conclusions FLOW naturally from the evidence.

When you get *LOTS* of people saying things like

"I don't buy it"

or

"I am CONVINCED that xxx"

What you have is people using social engineering tricks on us to try and sway others NOT WITH LOGIC, but with a sense of aligning with people who have strong opinions.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying everybody that disagrees with a given view point is an agent. This is bound to happen on any normal thread, there will always be people who are honestly convinced of their view point and are upfront about it.

It is when the number of those posts exceeds or matches posts that address facts and arguments presented by others. Which is what a "normal" ATS discusion tends to be like. In a normal discussion people are overflowing with possibilities OTHER than the mundane explanation. Because the mundane explanation is the easiest to come up with, no intellectual challenge there. And if the matter was indisputable mundane, it would be backed up with PLENTY of evidence. Finding evidence of the mundane is easy. If people making extraordinary claims have to come up with evidence, people making ordinary claims need to come up with just as much, and in fact, their job should be easier. At best, in the light of no evidence, any case is left as INCONCLUSIVE, and is subject to further research to anybody willing.

Another interesting thing is that you tend to see "groups" of people who are quick to agree with a leader without questioning them.

You NEVER see that in a normal thread. People here are so paranoid and skeptical of everything (a good thing in my mind) that they will express some doubt or reluctance even when presented with convincing facts and even when they change their minds. very very rarely will people just "agree with one another"

So, to those agents, better luck next time, you have only fooled a few if any.

To the observant ATSr, try it for yourself, go to other threads, those that talk about "Aliens are landing next tuesday" or other patently false material, and see for how long threads like that can last with people actually addressing the points of the thread. Look how honest members police one another and allow the flow of ideas, EVEN when they know it's all BS, they maintain a respectful and open attitude.

But it is only a few threads that exhibit this pattern I find so worrisome, those are the ones to look out for, because they may have come closer to the truth than some organizations are comfortable with.

The more threatened they feel, the more afraid they are that they have left unplugged leaks.

-rrr

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by expat2368

 

ah - they had time to get :

a truck

a crane [ how do you think it got on the truck ? ]

a black ops team

a police escort [ " fully briefed " ]

but they didnt have time to sheet and rope the load

hint - the driver keeps the ropes and tarps on his truck

and it doesnt take long to do

lastly - as you are obsessed with the notion of urgency , and the ` cover of darkness ` - then what happened at dawn ????

did it just vanish ?????????????????

1. A helicopter could have done the job of the crane, if the helicopter was capable of lifting the load, but not of carrying it for a long distance that would explain it.

2. The object may have been out gassing or too hot to put a tarp on.

3. A tarp over an object that big, with such a bizarre shape would have left just as much suspicion in the minds of any person who saw it, if not more. Heck, there are threads around here about industrial equipment on trailers with tarps on them that get debated to death. Those usually do not include a long escort of emergency vehicles trying to block the view of drivers, and have a WIDE LOAD sign on the rear.

4. How do you explain the overwhelming number of reports, photos and videos?

You need to come up with at least some alternative explanation other than "nothing happened there" don't you think? something strange happened for sure, the pictures, the reports of callers to radio stations, the videos and large number of independent reports, including a video of an object of identical description on HGWY 90 on the *same night* and *same general area* came from somewhere, and from several different people, at least two different people who were able to capture photographic evidence, not just one, if it was just one person we could label it as a hoax very easily, in this case we don't have that luxury.

You ask what happened at dawn? They certainly would have had more than enough time to get to any remote rendezvous location before dawn. Pursuing the question of what happened after the reported events would lead nowhere.

-rrr

Originally posted by TimothyMartin
This all sounds authentic, although some people give good points as to why this might not be real. But as far as I can tell this is a true MIB story...

How do you discern "authentic" from "well-written fiction"?

Originally posted by expat2368
reply to post by ^anubis^

 

Those videos are from MAY.. this occurred in August..

There was one video posted about THIS event and it was removed for
"terms of use violation"

They are trying to cover this up. The operation was pulled together in a hurry, they had to use local police as escorts because there was no time to bring in military. We are looking at another Roswell.

The video that you are referring to was remove under the "terms of use violation" The original footage is actually from ST Petersburg Russia.



Original Footage:
(ОРИГИНАЛ!) UFO's Convoy in Russia

вот так) место действия Дунайский проспект, Купчино =) снято мной из моего окна!!!!
Translated
like that) the place of the Danube Avenue, Kupchino =) lifted me out of my window!!

They are trying to cover this up.

So there's nothing here to cover-up.



Zelong.

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by TimothyMartin
This all sounds authentic, although some people give good points as to why this might not be real. But as far as I can tell this is a true MIB story...

How do you discern "authentic" from "well-written fiction"?

As far as the interview goes, there is no way to tell. The interview could be extremely well written fiction until anything else comes up to support it.

As far as the other events associated with the report (the explosions heard and the saucer shaped object photographed on the flatbedtruck on the highway by independent witnesses (NOTE, not the video from russia, you must read the entire thread) that would be somewhat more credible than fiction imho.

Here is a compilation of the photographic and corroborating witness report evidence:

Reports of loud noises on that night on that place:
www.topix.net...

Guy films the convoy on highway 90 on the same date:
www.youtube.com...

photos from another driver while UFO was on I20 posted on twitter:
www.mufoncms.com...

www.mufoncms.com...


While it is true that the photos and video are of awful quality consistent with camera phones, the fact that they come from independent sources and the fact that so many people reported noises on that night adds credibility to the story.

-rrr

Wow.
I've just found this now and have sat reading through it pretty much all afternoon and it does seem pretty weird.

What gets me, is pretty much what gets everyone else I suppose - if it was just a plane (sorry I can't remember the names being suggested) why the crazy cover ups? If what has been said is true about the radio stations and that, then thats a cover up. I also use twitter, and have never seen the "Older tweets are temporarily unavailable" message before.

But on the other hand, if it was something completely top secret, why would they be driving it down a freeway (I think it's freeway, I apologize, I'm British) where people can see it? Afterall it doesn't seem like a great secrecy hiding place, does it?

I'm no expert on planes, but it sure as hell doesn't look like one to me!

Hope someone can clear this up eventually, but it looks unlikely since 4 months later we're still going on the subject...

I wish we could just trust what's being said, but that's never gonna happen, is it?

A.