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If ATS Didn't exist....

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posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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If there were no AboveTopSecret..or any other conspiracy website,
WOULD YOU STILL BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACIES?
Most of us found this site while searching for information. Most of us felt like something was wrong with the world, but we weren't sure quite what. Many of us tried to talk to friends and family about it, and were looked at like we were crazy...
So we searched, for info, and for those like us.
But if ATS didn't exist..or any other place to find that which we seek,
WOULD YOU STILL FEEL THE SAME?
WOULD YOU STILL BELIEVE IN ALIENS?
BELIEVE 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?
OR-
Would you follow along with the majority of society that shy away from those of us on the fringe?
Would you dare discuss your theories with others? Or fear being labeled a nutter?
If you had no place like here to come to, WOULD YOU STILL BE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST????
Or does ATS FUEL the fire that is the world of conspiracy theory? With no ATS..would conspiracy theory exist at all?????




posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:08 PM
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Back in the pre-internet days we had things called books. Authors like Jim Keith, Alex Constantine, and Robert Anton Wilson were pointing the way to an alternative way of thinking. Let's not get all high and mighty.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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Good question

I stumbled upon ATS about a year ago while searching for UFO information and I'm glad I did. It opened my eyes up to a wide range of information, most of which I had never even heard of and knew existed. I have learned alot from this site.

I have converted a few people by introducing them to ATS, some where as shocked as I first was when they realised just how deep everything goes, espescially when there are links with solid proof.

So I'm glad ATS and other sites like it are around



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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Lol I dunno. I might be a david icke fan if not for this site. He has books.
ATS saves lives.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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If ATS didn't exist....


1: There would be allot more people back on the street holding signs that say "The End is Nigh"

2: I'd have an arrest record for heckling politicians publicly

3: I would be ill equipped to handle a Zombie attack



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Wasn't getting high and mighty. But with the internet now , it reaches more people....However when there were only books,and a few independent thinkers,we labeled them as crazy. NOW they have huge followings because of the internet.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:13 PM
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I found out there was electronic mind control in schools in 1992, so yes. I thought as soon as di was killed it was murder.

But back then you could not speak about these things really, as hardly anyone would really listen.

But ats is easily the best board on the net for critical thinking i have found. we have alot of rubbish too, but alot of us just ignore it now.


[edit on 12/15/2009 by andy1033]



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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I would suggest that sites like ATS exist because people DO believe, not the other way around. The internet has simply made if more accessible and perhaps easier for someone to find, but the subject matter "conspiracy" in general, has been a part of human psyche from the beginning (IMO).



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by AccessDenied
If there were no AboveTopSecret..or any other conspiracy website,
WOULD YOU STILL BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACIES?


Read David Icke, Jim Keith, RA Wilson, books on MK, NWO, Illuminati and dozens of others before Internet existed and didnt believe in the paranoid delusions back then either. It was entertaining though.

This site has a great design, interesting people - and a really good ETs section. Thats why I come.

[edit on 15-12-2009 by Skyfloating]



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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Books, books, books? No sorry never heard of them

Yer, I agree, ATS is a great place, but its really not the be all and end all. I would just go out and buy some more books and force them upon my friends. Indoctrination


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I found out there was electronic mind control in schools in 1992, so yes. I thought as soon as di was killed it was murder.


Seriously...when are you going to divulge this huge conspiracy that you know of to the rest of us? If you already have, I apologise and would like to know where it is, but you mention it in nearly every response and mention it is all you do.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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At some point in the search of information path I was on I needed to talk to others about what I had found and what I thought it meant.

Enter ATS

I agree with the post saying, ATS exists because of us, not we exist because of ATS.

I'm not saying I haven't heard something new on ATS, just saying the bulk of my information came before my first visit to ATS.


CX

posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Good question. To be honest, and some will laugh at this, but i would probably not have become as interested in CT's as i am now, purely because i'd never really heard much about them.

UFO's, aliens and the paranormal yes, i was always interested in that, but apart from the whole JFK thing, i'd not really come across conspiracy theories before.

I don't think i would have talked about conspiracy theories to others so much, but that was due to my lack of knowledge of them. However now, since spending time on ATS, i feel confident enough to talk to others about CT's without sounding like a someone with little or no facts to back up a theory.

Whilst conspiracy theories have existed long before ATS, for many here this site has opened their eyes to the many subjects discussed on this site.

For that reason, i thank this place.....and at times, curse it.


For me though ATS is far more than just conspiracies, it's an education in a huge array of subjects. With so many knowledgable members here, it's hard not to learn something new each visit.

CX.

[edit on 15/12/09 by CX]



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by AccessDenied
Wasn't getting high and mighty. But with the internet now , it reaches more people....However when there were only books,and a few independent thinkers,we labeled them as crazy. NOW they have huge followings because of the internet.



Funny, but How I see it is a little different. Before the mass usage of internet, we would hangout in parks, parties cafe's you name it. and discuss conspiracy, alien and the end of the world. We, my friend and I, really did bring the old books, investigate the history and philosophy on the eleborate theories of old civilisations. Ok I must admit it was I mindbreaker to get the right sources but in retrospect, we didnt find anything less knowledgeable than I would now. (except for the movies, etc.)


look at a reply of me on another tread "ATS is dying, a cancer grows within." it is about the same subject.


Originally posted by Dumbass
Im fairly new on this forum, not with the matter though.

The only way to prevent people finding "truth" is, first, by creating multiple "truths" and to blur the infogathering. Second create a hype of the investigation in order to attract lots of peepz that want to join the hype, just because its a hype. We all know that hypes kill itselves, by the overflow of non-information, greediocracy and dumbness


In the end, the "real" truth or "real" thesis will be questioned and dismissed in such a way that there will be no or little room to elborate them. Besides that the real" truth or "real" thesis will be hard too find, and if found, will be judge as disinfo.


If you want to kill conspiracy kill it with conspiracy.
(not that I want or need to)


the point I want to make, is that now with the internet the conspiracy theories are easy accesable, maybe even to easy. Because of that, IMO, it is harder to find truth in them.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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I had thoughts on conspiracies before ATS. JFK being the main one. I still think J. Edgar Hoover had something to do with that. Aside from that I was pretty uninterested in anything other than politics, which is what brought me to ATS. Now? I think more about issues past and present. Paranoid to a degree. Thanks ATS.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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I was more of a conspiracy theorist before ATS when I made my own observations. If it weren't for ATS combined with a more spiritual path I might still be one to this day.



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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It's that pit of your stomach feeling, when what you experience doesnt match up to what you know is logic.
When there are no answers to your question(s) and you've applied every law and common sense factor available.
It's that gnawing feeling of somethings quite not right.
It's you asking yourself "If I, can think of this who else has?"
ATS is a conduit, an intersection, a bucket of water, and each of us contributing here are information streams forming the collective.
It's not about if it didnt exist, it's about.....What's Next?



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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*shrug* I am here for differing reasons and hold a vastly different viewpoint than you. But, I don't see why sites like this wouldn't exist given the nature of mankind and the position we are in. Or is the question purely for those who consider themselves "believers"?


 
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posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
I was more of a conspiracy theorist before ATS when I made my own observations. If it weren't for ATS combined with a more spiritual path I might still be one to this day.


Interesting - same here. After reading so and so much of this you kind of see through a large part of it.

Ive always seen CT and Spirituality as forms of greater-awareness - with the CT moving to the dark-side (fear) and Spirituality moving to the light-side.

[edit on 15-12-2009 by Skyfloating]



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:38 PM
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seriously

I'd still be involved somehow...

In Search Of Started me off and Ripley's believe it or not as Child and also by Third Grade I was reading things like Von Daineiken Chariots of the Gods and stuff

My reading material when young and I was a young, young reader...

Tom Swift...I was always building a space station one day or something of the like... I Powered down centennial by Mitchner in the 2nd Grade, Amityville Horror same year, was allowed to go see Jaws and Star Wars in the Theater as a little tyke..

Always solving some Mystery, great brain Books and Encyclopedia brown... I was into everything weird... by 3rd grade I was checking out 14 sci fi books or related material every 2 weeks... total book worm

My Yard had a portal to Narnia i was quite convinced...

I ordered over a Hundred Comic Books a month, finding ways to express my Mutant genes at a young age with a Chemistry set and Ants... pouring chemicals on them and letting them bite me lol

Ats exists because of us lol... there is a demand



posted on Dec, 15 2009 @ 05:38 PM
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wait, wait, wait a second......this is a conspiracy site?
I've been coming here for years to pickup chicks.

brill



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