Obama Clearly on the Wrong Track !

Rasmussen Reports has 65% saying we are on the wrong track.
65% say ----Wrong Track!

reply to post by Eurisko2012


How many said we were on the wrong track back in January, 2009? Dude, like many warned during the last decade, while the tea baggers were just a light in the eye of Dick Army, the sky WAS falling. It's going to take some time to clean-up chicken little's guts off the highway. If you think the populace is going to put the republicants back in charge, you are sorely mistaken. If, by some awful irony, Palin/Beck 2012 comes to fruition, and is actually elected, America will get exactly what it deserves.

For the love of GOD will you guys see it is both sides. They sit at the same table at the country club and unless you are super rich you are only a pawn to them. WAKE UP THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!

Democrate= get it done fast they want change

Republican=move a little slower they are catching on

Put them together and you get less freedoms more taxes more wars they both run on FEAR wake up

I am a simple give me anyone who does not use FEAR to motivate me I will vote for them

reply to post by skunknuts

Palin/Beck 2012

I had a mini-stroke when you said this.


Of course he is on the wrong track, as Subjective Truth said, they are all on the same side.... the other side.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Rasmussen Reports has 65% saying we are on the wrong track.
65% say ----Wrong Track!

Wow! I think that would actually matter to me if most Americans weren't completely ignorant with regard to politics and history. Fortunately, the American people can recognize heavy distinctions with respect to intelligence, i.e., landslide vote against McCain/Palin.

Washington, D.C., November 20, 2008 – Are most people, including college graduates, civically illiterate? Do elected officials know even less than most citizens about civic topics such as history, government, and economics? The answer is yes on both counts according to a new study by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI). More than 2,500 randomly selected Americans took ISI’s basic 33-question test on civic literacy and more than 1,700 people failed, with the average score 49 percent, or an “F.” Elected officials scored even lower than the general public with an average score of 44 percent and only 0.8 percent (or 21) of all surveyed earned an “A.” Even more startling is the fact that over twice as many people know Paula Abdul was a judge on American Idol than know that the phrase “government of the people, by the people, for the people” comes from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.

Americans Civically Illiterate




[edit on 13-12-2009 by andrewh7]

this is going exactly how obama wants.He wants a weaker America and he want's the workers of America to pay for all the sorry, stupid, lazy handout, welfare sponges that this country has been infected with.

reply to post by DINSTAAR


I prefer Sarah Palin / Fred Thompson 2012.
In the mean time i see another landslide victory November 2010
for the GOP.
America will be on the right track when Pelosi hands over control
to the GOP. Maybe we should bring back Newt.
Contract with America 2.0

We should be free of liberal rule in 11 months.

Originally posted by genius/idoit
this is going exactly how obama wants.He wants a weaker America and he want's the workers of America to pay for all the sorry, stupid, lazy handout, welfare sponges that this country has been infected with.

You need to investigate the Fox News talking points you're spouting out. The public option will charge premiums just like all other health insurance companies. It will function as an independent and self-sustaining corporation. The "workers of America" are the ones losing their health insurance when they lose their jobs. They're the ones who have their health insurance cut off after years of fighting cancer. They're the ones who go bankrupt trying to pay their medical expenses after the insurance company cuts them off or refuses to insure them due to "preexisting conditions."

You're a neocon who could care less about anyone but himself. You don't care about fundamental and fatal flaws in our healthcare system because they haven't affected you and that's all that matters. Take care of yourself - that's the only thing you're good at, assuming the threat is no more than 6 inches in front of you.

[edit on 13-12-2009 by andrewh7]

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by DINSTAAR

 

I prefer Sarah Palin / Fred Thompson 2012.
In the mean time i see another landslide victory November 2010
for the GOP.
America will be on the right track when Pelosi hands over control
to the GOP. Maybe we should bring back Newt.
Contract with America 2.0

We should be free of liberal rule in 11 months.

You might consider actually reading the article that you use to start a thread. Also, in order for the GOP to win "another" landslide election they would logically have to have recently won a landslide election. They haven't done anything except lose seats. Moreover, I would like to know how a landslide results from an 18% approval rate. Palin couldn't even finish a single term as governor and you think she would make a good president?

Running under the Tea Party brand may be better in congressional races than being a Republican, though. In a three-way Generic Ballot test, Democrats attract 36% of the vote. The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and Republicans finish third at 18%. Another 22% are undecided.

[edit on 13-12-2009 by andrewh7]

reply to post by andrewh7


The GOP had a landslide victory in Virginia.
Obama tried and failed in New Jersey.
The GOP won both Governor races.
A dark cloud will appear over the White House November 2010.
You know it. I know it. 65% of Americans know it.
11 months to go. Tick tock......tick tock.....tick tock......
I can hear them in the oval office already.
OK, we got creamed. That Eurisko 2012 guy was absolutely right!
How do we spin this?

Someone get Pelosi on the phone and tell her to stop crying.

reply to post by Eurisko2012

America will be on the right track when Pelosi hands over control to the GOP.

Just like when we were on the right track earlier this decade . When the GOP regains control they will just continue their own methods of messing up.

Reply to andrewh7

It will function as an independent and self-sustaining corporation.

So why call it the 'public option' at all? This is not the reality of the situation. It won't be independent, and it won't be self-sustaining. If it could be self-sustaining it would already exist in the private market.

The public option, being public, will require massive amounts of government intervention to keep it afloat just like all of the predecessors before it. There is a reason a private company hasn't already filled the gaps that the public option would fill.
It isn't sustainable and is more unsustainable as the system we currently have.



Liberals can go on writing blank checks for unaccountable government programs and stifling the markets ability to prosper.

Conservatives can continue writing blank checks for bad policy and unnecessary foreign military involvement, while not having the slightest clue as to what a free market or freedom itself actually is.

America is sick because the only medication it wants to take is poison (D) or poison (R).

reply to post by DINSTAAR


Yeah, self sustaining like Amtrak.
I'm glad Cap & Trade is dead. Now we need to kill ObamaCare.
The next election is in only 11 months.
Everybody is afraid to vote for it.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Hear Hear !!!

I concur completely with Subjective Truth...TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!

Both political parties are exactly the same and it makes no difference who appears to be in "control"... Unless you can get some DIRECT benefit or detriment from politics, it makes no difference what party you support...

On the other hand, just remember that all governments are made up of regular people, just like you and me...Governments need all sorts of people to operate...like secretaries, janitors, truck drivers, security guards, phone receptionists, doctors, lawyers, indian chiefs, etc...

In other words governments are controlled by regular people because the power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it (Frank Herbert).

So...if people all decide to "unplug themselves from the machine" or simply "change the programming"... the machine can once again operate based upon the will of the people.

My 2 cents...

reply to post by polychronopolis


Both parties are the same?
Would the GOP try KSM in a civilian court in New York City?
Would the GOP throw the public option canadian health care system
at you?
Would the GOP kill jobs with a Cap & Trade bill?
Would the GOP close GITMO?
I could go on and on but you get the point.

Here's what the GOP last gave us for a leader:


Work Experience

LAW ENFORCEMENT: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University. I earned a lot of "gentleman's C's," which means F's that are turned into C's for sons of prominent Americans.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Kenneth Lay), I was elected Governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American history.

With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year period. In my first year in office, after taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history, resulting in the disaster of 9-11.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president.

In my first year in office more than 2-million Americans lost their jobs, and that trend continues every month.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any president in U.S. history.

I set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history, and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans, and I support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in war time.

Internationally, I have set the all-time record for the most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

I have broken more international treaties than any president in U.S history.

I am proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker

reply to post by skunknuts


George W. Bush is old news.
Wake up!
Now it's Sarah Palin / Liz Cheney / Fred Thompson.

reply to post by genius/idoit


I just need to get to the bottom of your convictions. Please inform us:

1. Why you think the President wants a "weaker" US?

2. The current statistics on those who are working and still receiving government aid.

3. Statistics on those who do not work and receive government aid.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by skunknuts

 

George W. Bush is old news.
Wake up!
Now it's Sarah Palin / Liz Cheney / Fred Thompson.

Oh how I wish George W. Bush was old news. That's like telling the Japanese in 1946 that dropping the A-Bomb was old news. Too bad our collective asses are still throbbing from his legacy.

Best,
Skunknuts

Originally posted by andrewh7
You might consider actually reading the article that you use to start a thread. Also, in order for the GOP to win "another" landslide election they would logically have to have recently won a landslide election. They haven't done anything except lose seats. Moreover, I would like to know how a landslide results from an 18% approval rate. Palin couldn't even finish a single term as governor and you think she would make a good president?

Running under the Tea Party brand may be better in congressional races than being a Republican, though. In a three-way Generic Ballot test, Democrats attract 36% of the vote. The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and Republicans finish third at 18%. Another 22% are undecided.

[edit on 13-12-2009 by andrewh7]

They don't have to have recently won a landslide election. The most popular parallel people have drawn to Obama is Carter and even though the Democrats had Watergate and Ford pardoning Nixon plus Ford being portrayed as a buffoon, Carter didn't exactly steamroll over Ford in '76. Then he got his backside handed to him against Reagan four years later.

The elephants lost seats in recent years because of Iraq and the economy going in the tank. I guarantee you that there will be plenty of donkeys losing their seats in 2010 unless they pull off a miracle because their spending is out of control, people are starting to realize it and their policies are growing increasingly unpopular.

I think the notion that most people in this country, generally politically illiterate and tending to vote for a letter next to a name, are noticing that "Hey, things aren't going like they said they would", despite all the promises and proclamations, is striking.

One recent poll, sorry but I can't remember which, has Sarah Palin with an approval rating on the rise while Obama's sinks. She's spent most of the last year as a punch line but not as much these days.

Part of that is indicative of the "instant gratification" society we live in. When people hear "This will change or that will change, this will be better, we'll fix it", they're not thinking next year or the year after that. They're thinking soon. People have gotten so used to a certain standard of living over the past 30 years with relatively few very bad lulls, they don't expect things to be bad for long when they're told they won't be. Today is worse than the stagflation/malaise of the late 70's/early 80's because people then weren't that far removed from less prosperous times. You didn't buy a new TV, car, house or something else on a whim. Shoot, TVs used to be considered an appliance.

Regardless of all of that and it's been said in a different way earlier in this thread, these days republicans and democrats are two sides of the same coin and that's as bad an indicator as anything else. Conservatives tried to change with the times to meet more people in the middle and liberals became more progressive or "radical" as societal norms have relaxed. The end result is bigger government from either side with more control and regulation, they're just focused in different areas to appeal to different groups. The end result is, the people stuck in the middle get screwed. Unfortunately, that's most of us.

reply to post by skunknuts


Just for kicks and giggles, using the same criteria, what have the dems given us as our latest "leader"? Feel free to objectively list all his pluses and minuses in a manner similar to this post. I understand that we're talking about a relatively short time frame but go ahead and enumerate his present and past accomplishments along with any personal, professional or character flaws you may be aware of.

PS: Try and do it without searching the internet.

PPS: Good luck.

PPPS: "He's not Bush" doesn't qualify as a counterpoint.

PPPPS: His Nobel Prize is a joke, so don't bother going there.