Sarah Palin Firepower : 4,200,000 viewers on Hannity!, page 2
Pages: <<  1    2    3  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 5 times


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 05:55 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by ZombieOctopus



First off my beforehand apology to GAOTU789 and most reasonable Canadians..but I am not perfect.

So what does that say about Canada if America has been a superpower for the last 50 years and is supposedly full of hillbilly's, and Canada only exists because it has been hiding under our coat tails the whole time.

I wonder if Sarah will get even higher ratings on O'Reilly.... maybe 6 million?

[edit on 19-11-2009 by HotSauce]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 07:50 PM by ZombieOctopus
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to
post by ZombieOctopus



In your own words, why do you dislike Palin? I keep seeing her made fun of a lot and would be interested in hearing specifics as to why she is ridiculed so harshly. I'm not a big fan either but I can see a lot of the criticism is unfair.

What specifically about her do you not like? Nothing general like 'she's a nut' or something. But specifics, preferably related to the realm of politics. I'm genuinely interesting in hearing from a Canadian.


Err, she has a Bachelor's of Arts degree in communications and the only previous work experience she has is as a sports reporter. People were chewing out Obama for lack of experience, the man has a Juris Doctor in Constitutional Law... Uhhh what?

She's a populous talking point parrot, all she does is pray on the fears of the reactionary republican underclass of America, she has zero answers to anything. She prides herself on being ignorant and uneducated, it's totally absurd. I can't even fathom how such a big segment of your country fails to see through her thin veil of nonsense.

But, I'm starting to think that America deserves Sarah Palin as President, seriously. If such a big chunk of Americans can be so impartial to reality as to shut their eyes to all facts, less which side of the political spectrum a candidate falls, I hope Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck run, and win, in 2012. It would be a hard, hard lesson, but maybe some people would open their eyes.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 07:56 PM by ZombieOctopus
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to
post by ZombieOctopus



First off my beforehand apology to GAOTU789 and most reasonable Canadians..but I am not perfect.

So what does that say about Canada if America has been a superpower for the last 50 years and is supposedly full of hillbilly's, and Canada only exists because it has been hiding under our coat tails the whole time.

I wonder if Sarah will get even higher ratings on O'Reilly.... maybe 6 million?

[edit on 19-11-2009 by HotSauce]


There are greater measures of success than how many people you've slaughtered in war and how much money and power you gain through it my friend.

Canada certainly isn't here by America's good graces, we've earned our standing in the world. It figures that as an American you actually believe that though.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 09:37 PM by ZombieOctopus
reply to post by marg6043



I couldn't agree more. Obama is a tool, but Palin... is beyond words.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 09:48 PM by marg6043
reply to post by ZombieOctopus



She is another test for the population in this country, it doesn't take a genius to see how well manipulated with media influences pay by big interest politricks are played on the gullible voters.

What saddens me the most is to think that the same tactics were used with Obama and how even I fell for it.

Now Palin is the next rat test to see how much power the corporate run media have on the masses.

And for what I can see, people in this nation have very short time memories, they seems to have forgotten the fiasco of the last administration and the disaster that this new administration is doing.

In America we don't have leaderships anymore, we have not heroes in politics all we got is puppets and corruption.

And the masses seems to feed on that, forgotten are the economic crisis and the unemployment and who brought our nation to its knees.

Pity.


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 10:00 PM by Pellevoisin
All Palin needs to do is join up with Ron Paul and his people and with the next election they could turn the USA on its head ... which I think is a far cry better than the White House's current employment of Chicagoland bully tactics, heaping scorn and derision on opponents, keeping "enemies lists" like Richard Nixon, and talking out of their a$%#I when they are unprepared or are simply so unprofessional they can't help but veer off from the morning talking points into the ditch.

Obama's failure to deliver what he promised looms large over the USA and the political establishment. Guantanamo is still up and running. USAmerican troops are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, and just when will they be brought home?! The Elite behind Obama -- just like the Elite behind W. Bush -- don't give a damn about the men and women in uniform. They see them as expendable pawns on their global chessboards.

For the sake of the USA I hope Palin veers away from Glen Beck in favour of Ron Paul, his well thought out constitutional positions and his young and vibrant supporters. The pendulum is already swinging away from the Socialist/Fascist decisions taken by the Obama White House and the Pelosi-Reid Legislative branch. The pendulum is not swinging toward the neo-cons, and if Palin saddles up with the neo-cons she can kiss her future goodbye. She needs to take advantage of the gaining national momentum for a kind of government that is far more libertarian and decentralised.

And that is tuppence from the Madwoman who is older than dirt.

[edit on 19/11/09 by Pellevoisin]


reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 10:08 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Pellevoisin



While that sounds like a dream come true, you have to understand that is powers behind our government that can not be denied. Those powers control politics and what is done in the nation, no hopeful politician will have any chance in hell if they go against those powers.

The only way to take back our government is in a radical way that will shake those powers to the core and that means the masses standing up and taking over.

But people still dreams of hopeful candidates and long death heroes.



[edit on 19-11-2009 by marg6043]


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 12:53 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to
post by ZombieOctopus



In your own words, why do you dislike Palin? I keep seeing her made fun of a lot and would be interested in hearing specifics as to why she is ridiculed so harshly. I'm not a big fan either but I can see a lot of the criticism is unfair.

What specifically about her do you not like? Nothing general like 'she's a nut' or something. But specifics, preferably related to the realm of politics. I'm genuinely interesting in hearing from a Canadian.


Err, she has a Bachelor's of Arts degree in communications and the only previous work experience she has is as a sports reporter. People were chewing out Obama for lack of experience, the man has a Juris Doctor in Constitutional Law... Uhhh what?

She's a populous talking point parrot, all she does is pray on the fears of the reactionary republican underclass of America, she has zero answers to anything. She prides herself on being ignorant and uneducated, it's totally absurd. I can't even fathom how such a big segment of your country fails to see through her thin veil of nonsense.

But, I'm starting to think that America deserves Sarah Palin as President, seriously. If such a big chunk of Americans can be so impartial to reality as to shut their eyes to all facts, less which side of the political spectrum a candidate falls, I hope Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck run, and win, in 2012. It would be a hard, hard lesson, but maybe some people would open their eyes.


Forgive my ignorance, but being the uneducated dumb hillbilly that I am, I was somewhat confused by what you meant by "all she does is pray on the fears of the reactionary public". Do you mean that Sarah Palin utters sacred words on the fears of the reactionary public? I am confused because being the ignoramus that I am I would never dare presume that you actually misspelled prey and instead meant pray exactly as you spelled it. For surely an erudite soul such as yourself, educated as you are would have never made such a simple mistake in spelling. Of course, your statement would have made more sense if you did mean prey instead of pray, but again, I am just a simple back woodsy sort of fellow and would never dare presume you made such a silly mistake. So please, could you explain further what you meant by "all she does is pray on the fears of the reactionary public"? Your illumination would be more than greatly appreciated.

[edit on 20-11-2009 by Jean Paul Zodeaux]


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 01:01 AM by wanderingwaldo
One more thing, just about every review of her book (Including one from the reporter who covered the Palin campaign for Fox News) says her book is a pile of crap with steam-lines of fantasy emanating from it.

The icy wrath of a hockey mom: How Sarah Palin uses "Going Rogue" to get back at a former aide Read more: www.nydailynews.com...

We interviewed dozens of Alaskans for our book, "Sarah From Alaska," during Palin's final legislative session as governor in early 2009. As we made our way down the list of state legislators, staffers and lobbyists, we would often ask who else we should reach out to in Juneau to enlighten us on how Palin became one of the country's most popular governors. Again and again, the answer was, "Talk to Bitney."

But that savvy, competent John Bitney that everyone seems to recognize in Juneau does not exist in "Going Rogue." The reason, it seems, is that Palin's relationship with Bitney ended rather suddenly when she told her chief of staff to fire him in 2007.

Back then, Palin's deputy press secretary, Sharon Leighow, told reporters that Bitney had been axed for personal reasons. By the 2008 presidential campaign, the story had changed. "John Bitney was dismissed because of his poor job performance," Leighow told the Wall Street Journal.

Unlikely; Bitney appears to have been the victim of a particularly salient grudge after he admitted to having an affair with a Palin family friend - a woman he would later marry.

Palin's animosity for Bitney now appears to run so deep that in the book she refuses to utter his name, instead describing him as "a BlackBerry games addict who couldn't seem to keep his lunch off his tie." Though Bitney was one of the three officials at the top of her gubernatorial campaign, Palin airbrushes him out of her recounting entirely. But she does find space to write about how later, in the governor's office, he would "nibble cookies" during staff meetings.

"The fact that his shirt was buttoned one button off and his shirttail was poking through his open fly didn't exactly inspire confidence," she writes. For someone who spoke eloquently about the media's obsession with her own appearance, Palin has a surprising memory for her former legislative director's sartorial lapses.

Palin's most eye-widening charge against Bitney comes when she recounts her comment to state legislators, still infamous in Juneau, that she was there as the "adult in the room"; state lawmakers found the claim condescending. According to Palin's recounting now, Bitney was responsible for the comment. It had been Bitney who supposedly suggested in a private meeting that Palin ought to declare that legislators were "in need of some adult supervision."

"It's fiction, and she's just being mean," Bitney told us on Tuesday.

Since Election Day, Sarah Palin has been quick to portray herself as a victim. She decries her treatment by the media and her own campaign - rightfully, in some instances - but cannot bring herself to admit that many more of her slipups have been her own doing. If she envisions a future as a serious national political figure, it is difficult to see how consistently passing the buck helps her to reach that goal.

Conroy was a CBS News reporter covering the Palin campaign and is now a digital journalist at the network. Walshe covered Palin's VP run for Fox News.


reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 01:02 AM by wanderingwaldo
Sarah Palin versus the liberal loons

My literary tastes aside, nothing changes the fact that Going Rogue is 413 pages of religious homilies, cheery bromides, clichés and hackneyed froth.

As in its first page: "I breathed in an autumn bouquet that combined everything small-town America with rugged splashes of the Last Frontier."

As in Palin's Alaska, a place where girls played dress-up under a wild crabapple tree, where good people didn't cuss, where Dad wisely limited access to "what he called the boob tube," making his kids watch it outside in a shed in minus-30-degree cold (that must have been some TV set).

She describes a place where churches offered "what people used to call 'good clean fun,'" and where even children appreciated the value and necessity of work.

After a Palin-family supper, she writes, the routine was always the same.

"I'm washing!" Heather would say. "I'm rinsing!" said Molly. "I'm singing!" I said.

And so on. A Norman Rockwell painting, in print. Actually, this book makes Rockwell look like a nihilist.

To read this book, Sarah Palin is not ambitious. In fact, ambition is not a word I was able to find in its pages.

The closest allusion was her declaration that, as every sled musher in Alaska knows, "If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes."

Otherwise, her intentions are always couched in terms of service.

"All I wanted," she wrote of her time as Alaska governor, "was the chance to work as hard as I could, serve the people honourably — and I figured that maybe between changing state government and changing diapers, we'd help our corner of the world."

Uh-huh. Remember, this is from a woman who, a few months ago, halfway through her first term as governor, abruptly quit and collected what's reported to be a multimillion-dollar advance for this book.

"In politics," she declares, "You're either eating well or sleeping well. I wanted to sleep well."

At a guess, Sarah Palin is eating very well right now, too. But of course the question on everyone's minds is whether this book is actually a platform for a run at the White House.
Pages: <<  1    2    3  >>    ^^TOP^^