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The Conspiracy IS ATS! is all of US!

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posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:00 PM
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This is my thread that goes out to everyone in here (points towards heart) and out there (pointing ATS) that is hungry for the truth

First off, I would like to point out that I did, in my lifetime, meet beings from elsewhere, phenomenon’s that I could never explain with words, feelings that some of you might have had. Right now I am at a point in my life where I am trying to peace everything together. I hope that this is going to make sense to some of you. This is one of my many attempts , at big picture disclosure.

I would like to start this thread with this plain and obvious discovery : Internet forums on conspiracy and aliens, are now mostly controlled by the mass of government agencies trying to “secure” their countries. With the vastness of the internet, it has become the most usefull tool to gather and amass intelligence. Right now, im sure (but without proof) that there are “program spiders” seeking certain keywords, and users. This being not too far from the truth since NSA has inside information about windows 7 core kernel, and Cia, military and paramilitary units survey the web from google and outwards…

Our little planet has become such a burden of information, Facebook, msn, aim, mirc, blogs, chats, news…. There isn’t anything right now that isnt controlled. Even perception at this point. I point you towards the site : “godlikeproductions” for one , that is controlled by a hand full of military people , and something called the tavistock company. In it, you will find that both mind games, and perception control is used in many way for public suppression or repression. Now without going into too much detail, (that would bore even me) this sends out a clear message about involvement. Something that is easily dismissable, but not easy to prove. Their involvement, also in par, per funding, concerns all of you and your governments.

Imagine for one second a world in this day and age, were the truth is known about life, about power, about functioning in a whole and entire force of free people. As one joker would say: They are all skeemers, trying to control their little worlds. But you and I know we both know that you can’t control something like that. The lust for power, is never, something that benefits anyone. True power is given and entrusted, not taken from somebody. In that we are all victims of the GREATER illusion. This illusion almost defines our lives at some point.

Take away the means of that control (Oil, Taxes, money) and watch the system crumble. And this is what they are trying to save. This archaic system that can never really work is bound to fail sooner or later. As we get new energy sources, and new discoveries , the elite of this world will then loose all weight and power. This they will never want. Never.. And as long as people stay apathetic to all of it, they continue holding on to the future of human kind. And it is YOU who give them that control. By not speaking up, by not being different, by accepting whatever you are being told without question. That is the result of not finding your own way…. It affects everything…..

On the other hand you have these people from all around the world that are being raped, violated, taken at will, by a few dozen denoted species of this galaxy. With some of the general hype that comes with such claims, you have very much 6 total types of beings. Mamals, lizards, fish, insects, humanoids, and interdimensionnal beings. All of which have all been discussed in the past over the internet, and almost immediately ridiculed. These experiences, of meeting such a being, are not only overwhelming, but they are of pure fear and chaos. Although the experience doesn’t usually end with death or with total anhilation of the body, it does have lingering effects on the human psyche.

That is where the trap lies. The only real way to track all of the phenomena going on , on our planet, is via internet, and phone conversations. It is a passive way
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posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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That is where the trap lies. The only real way to track all of the phenomena going on , on our planet, is via internet, and phone conversations. It is a passive way of checking out whatever is happening without interfering. Thus the paranoia, the self pitty, and self guilt that usually follows such a violation, persues even amongst peers. It is encouraged so that every single being continues this role into self denial, and self control. This also impacts disclosure as being nothing possible. Continues a viscious cycle that ends with ONE person speaking up, and being ACCEPTED.

For those that are behind the coverup, everything is fine. Simply put, it is a small price to pay for the safety of our or your nation. This being this pre-evolved society, driven by the need for wealth of objects. This world is corrupt far beyond repair as of right now. Because simply put, people in this day and age, are not responsible. They do not take into account all the harm that they can do to people, to other animals, to the whole spirit of life. They simply think about themselves, in a protective animal way. To protect themselves and their family. It is nothing but instinct that has to be overcome. As a society of thinking beings, we need to move away from this false protection, and more towards exploring what we can become. As a people united, we do not need government. As a people united there is no need for someone in the rule of law. As all together we decide of the best judgement. This is change that we can believe that can happen, but not right now….

Now all of this is very fun and all… but whats the point you ask? The point is, we are prisoners of this tirany that is our governments. All the same kind of royalty that has evolved over time. There is proof of this elite structure, causing the world wars, causing the conflicts, funding both side to pit each other against themselves, But we are still not able to act against them. We prefer believing what is easy and what some stupid jerk on the TELEVISION tells us. Why?

Because no one knows that they are controlled. Freedom is implied, and taken into belief. But make no mistake. As long as there is government and money, there will be no freedom. And men will need to fight each other, and destroy each other. These very complicated conflicts are all caused by the paradigms of our lives. So let’s make a list of what we know to be true:

Governement blindfolds you from responsability
Governement is controlled by money
Money is controlled by a few elite and by religions
Religions and money fund wars

And all of these exist to enrich the others.

The truth is : we are not alone, the same thing as earth is not flat. We are beings capable of extraordinary compassion, and the universe is filled with races, adventures, knowledge. We are simply laying still in its vastness. As one Jack Bauer would say: Were only here for the ride!

Now ask yourself….. who do you believe? The liars that spent a lifetime perfecting their art, or some joe some that has been hurt… you tell me!



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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ohh sorry the important part of the tread has not been pasted.... but it is the most important question of all.....

Now tell me that some governement, that knows the country is about to fail, wouldnt create such a big event as 9/11 .....

tell me if my logic is sound



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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very insightful and though out post.

i defiantly agree with what you are saying.

but as the saying goes, majority rules.

the majority of people have absolutely no idea what is going on in our world.
so, whenever some new crazy idea comes along, if the government says it's bad that's what the majority thinks.

Bottom line here is people just need to start critically thinking for themselves.
Not just blinding trusting everyone who has the chance to speak on a news channel.
Just look at how far society in general has advanced over the last 100 years.

the comparison is like day and night, we have so many new technologies and continue to make newer,faster and smaller devices.

But where will all of this lead?

I don't know, and that's the problem that bothers me the most.
I have no clue how the world is going to be in 5 years, let alone 20 or thirty.

we will in strange, scary and just messed up times.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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Nothing new under the sun.

Governments throughout history has seek the control of their population. However, today we are in little bit different situation as we have the information technology where keywords and such can be processed in a blink of an eye.

When everything is digitalized, this is even more easier. Considering this, I am unsure what should I really care - If I am a slave, so what? At least I proudly reckon that this is a possibility.

Well, we people are animals just like rats - no matter what the conditions are, we try to survive, live to our best capacity; if these are the conditions, fine! I go to the fridgerator and find it all pretty easy


-v



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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There are many people suggesting that ATS is COINTELPRO and considering the way they censor many politically sensitive topics while having entire forum-sections on silly UFO conspiracy theories and creationism, it makes me wonder...

[edit on 19/11/09 by PC equals Newspeak]



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
There are many people suggesting that ATS is COINTELPRO and considering the way they censor many politically sensitive topics while having entire forum-sections on silly UFO conspiracy theories and creationism, it makes me wonder...

[edit on 19/11/09 by PC equals Newspeak]


This ought to be interesting...


I don't believe anything is being censored on here other than trying to stop the occasional Political Trolling around here.

Then... to say that UFO conspiracies and creationism is silly?!? What exactly brought you here in the first place then... which wasn't very long ago.

Now to get back on subject: Do I think Governments and TPTB are watching all of us... yes even in this forum. Yeah probably.

Do I care?... Hell no!

The reason I came here was to chat and talk with like-minded people and to discuss possible theories.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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Many of us have discovered how the forum : Godlikeproduction, has hinted involvement. In fact there are a lot of information out there.

The difference between this forum, is that my text was not immediatelly censored. I don't see it happening, but I have been wrong in the past. You all remember those socialist posters with obama's face dressed up as the joker right? Well those were started inside the godlikeproductions website. A secret forum had printed out some propaganda and anyone speaking against them, were automaticly banned.

The main administrator of the site : Trinity, has been known to go off the coocoo's nest a few times.....



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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I predict that there will be a period of time when the government will go into hiding underground and leave us up here to sort out our own problems. It will be a time of absolute chaos.

As the last bit of the economy that is still in tact, like say our supermarkets and other stores are looted and supplies become scarce, the real fight for survival will begin.

Rather than a state of martial law it will be as a state of anarchy for a period of time. Then when it is over, when the old way of doing things ultimately fails. The elites will return and attempt to restore order.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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reply to post by KpxMarMoTT
 


Is this where I play Mussorgsky's 'Pictures at an Exhibition' while awaiting the final shoe to drop?

Please let me know...



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 02:10 PM
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hey 12.21.12 nice logo, really dig the punk rock group!! Rock on!


This is not a one liner, but a twoliner



posted on Nov, 20 2009 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by x2Strongx
I don't believe anything is being censored on here other than trying to stop the occasional Political Trolling around here.


People have been censored and banned for expressing views varying from defending the legalisation of marihuana to disputing the official claims on happened to the European Jews during WW2 without there being any trolling, use of offensive language or otherwise poor behavior. I was only for their opinion they were censored and banned.


Originally posted by x2Strongx
Then... to say that UFO conspiracies and creationism is silly?!? What exactly brought you here in the first place then... which wasn't very long ago.


My main interests are politics, war, philosophy, anthropology, psychology and history. This includes topics like 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Holocaust, the political assassinations, revolution, racial differences and many other topics, some of which are censored here.


Originally posted by x2Strongx
Now to get back on subject: Do I think Governments and TPTB are watching all of us... yes even in this forum. Yeah probably.

Do I care?... Hell no!


If they are running this website and actively censoring the information on here, you should be wondering how well spent your time on ATS is and whether there aren't any better sources of information.


Originally posted by x2Strongx
The reason I came here was to chat and talk with like-minded people and to discuss possible theories.


I came here just out of curiosity after hearing others complain about the censorship and their suspicions that ATS was COINTELPRO. Thusfar, however, I'm mostly disappointed by the amount of ignorance here...


Originally posted by KpxMarMoTT
You all remember those socialist posters with obama's face dressed up as the joker right? Well those were started inside the godlikeproductions website. A secret forum had printed out some propaganda and anyone speaking against them, were automaticly banned.


Golikeproductions seems to be pretty clear about its ideological position, so censorship of dissident views can be expected. ATS on the other hand seems to promote ideological and religious diverity, while at the same time ruling with an iron first over various controversial opinions.



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