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reply posted on 6-12-2009 @ 01:16 AM by pteridine
reply to post by StargateSG7



Thermodynamics drive hydrocarbons toward carbon and hydrogen. What pressures and temperatures exist in the regions that you refer to? We have not yet seen any abiotic oil as plant markers [phytol] are commonplace.


reply posted on 6-12-2009 @ 03:54 PM by LaBTop
www.gl.ciw.edu...
SUMMARY REPORT:

DEEP CARBON CYCLE WORKSHOP

MAY 15-17, 2008 – Carnegie Institution, Geophysical laboratory

Session I: The first breakout session on deep carbon reservoirs was chaired by Steve Haggerty (Florida International University). The surprising conclusion regarding key unanswered questions is that little is known about the nature and extent of deep carbon reservoirs. Uncertainties remain about the major carbon-bearing phases, the extent to which carbon may be incorporated as a trace element in nominally “a carbonaceous” minerals, the nature of C-O-H-N fluids in the mantle, the presence of organic molecules in deep reservoirs, and the nature and extent of deep microbial life. A realistic objective for the next decade, therefore, is an understanding of the nature of all possible deep carbon reservoirs as a function of temperature, pressure and compositions of both rocks and volatiles. It was emphasized that equally fundamental is an understanding of fluxes and mass balance among reservoirs (see session II). Longer-term goals include a fundamental understanding of modes of CO2 sequestration, determination of possible fluxes of a biotic organic species, and the search for high-pressure forms of “life” that are as yet unknown.


A massive amount of material to study in the coming weeks :
www.gl.ciw.edu...

Start with this MP4 presentation :
Keynote speech, by Ronald Cohen, Geophysical Laboratory :

"Carbon from Earth's surface to its core"

All the other Power Point and MP4 lectures and presentations are very interesting for anybody with a scientific background, and will be of great help for everyone genuinely interested in this subject.


reply posted on 10-12-2009 @ 09:26 AM by pteridine
reply to post by LaBTop



Interesting post. Some of the papers are only on i-something that I can't access. While all discuss possibilities, the discussion groups conclusions say [as they always do] that much more research is necessary.
So far, the oil that we have found has only been of biogenic origin but abiotic oil is possible. I have been casually watching the area of deep source methane since Thomas Gold's theory was proposed. At one point in the abiotic fad, even abiotic coal was invoked but the person so claiming it had absolutely no knowledge of coal petrography or chemistry. Deep source methane is much more likely than deep source oil, but this will be an interesting field to follow while the evidence is accumulated.


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 08:03 PM by pteridine
reply to post by Red Cloak



What evidence is there of nuclear explosions in under the arctic oceans?
How do you propose that oil "lubricates" the tectonic plates to prevent earthquakes?


reply posted on 16-1-2010 @ 06:03 PM by wizardwars
reply to post by Solenki



Mr geologist you might consider the fact that you have been lied to a lot of what we have been taught about this world is bs. Good thread I could never buy into that fossil fuel crap.
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