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Huge rise in birth defects in Falluja

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posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Huge rise in birth defects in Falluja


www.guardian.co.uk

Doctors in Iraq's war-ravaged enclave of Falluja are dealing with up to 15 times as many chronic deformities in infants and a spike in early life cancers that may be linked to toxic materials left over from the fighting.

The extraordinary rise in birth defects has crystallised over recent months as specialists working in Falluja's over-stretched health system have started compiling detailed clinical records of all babies born.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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babies with 2 head , cancer at birth , atrophied organs and limbs.


but oh no , the `wonderful` USA never uses WMD`s do they.


THIS is the legacy of using chemical and nuclear weapons - DU is a nuclear weapon and enough of it was used in shells and bullets during the cleansing of the city - coupled withe blanket bombing of white phosphorus - well read the article and see the pictures.

a crime against humanity this is.

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin

a crime against humanity this is.


A crime against humanity? Well some barbarians say it was a 'war tactic'.

It was easier for US to bomb the crap outa falluja than to loose 1-2k soldiers fighting on every street corner.Falluja was a tough nut to crack.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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More proof that our previous administration needs to face criminal prosecution. Conspiracy theories and oil pipelines aside, depleted uranium is a severe threat to human life, regardless of how many Department of Defense, WHO and RAND corporation studies say that it is non-cancer causing.

There is a fascinating article by the folks over at Global Research on the topic of DU in Iraq:

Depleted Uranium Radioactive Contamination In Iraq: An Overview



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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Hello people, fear not the Americans are here...

we are here to deform you.

I am disgusted and embarrassed on a daily basis by the actions of my govt. However these current atrocities are not committed in my name, I have voted 3rd party for over 15 years and sleep better because of it.. I saw a long time ago that all I got for voting for either establishment party.. was more intelligence insulting establishment policy.

All you GOP & DNC voting clones, pat yourselves on the back for a mission accomplished, this is what YOUR PARTY supports.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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Oh wait...........the American soldiers were just doing "their job". Veteran's day made me want to vomit and this is why. I don't care who's considered a hero by mainstream society........in WAR THERE ARE NO HEROES PERIOD!

This is disgusting. One of the main reasons I'm so against any war is the environmental and ecological damage. I mean were the land mines in Afghanistan not enough? And who the hell do you think is going to be paying for the healthcare of all these deformed babies? My country disgusts me sometimes! We are more evil than anyone wants to admit.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by Zosynspiracy]



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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Previous administrations? WTF???????????? EVERY ADMINISTRATION FROM WWII ONWARD is corrupt and tyrannical. You think Clinton or Bush Sr. or Obama aren't responsible? WTF is Obongo doing? Is he ending the wars and bringing the troops home? Hell no! He just any other bought and paid for corporate monkey!



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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People like you need to quit saying "actions by my government". It's actions by our government, our military and YES THE INDIVIDUAL SOLDIERS! I guess the pilots that dropped the first atomic bombs were just "doing their job". I guess the SS in Germany were just doing their job? I guess the Nazi soldiers just flipping the switch at Auschwitz were just "doing their job". If the US government had people that refused to execute their evil and tyrannical plans and foreign policy they wouldn't have any power.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Someone336
More proof that our previous administration needs to face criminal prosecution. Conspiracy theories and oil pipelines aside, depleted uranium is a severe threat to human life, regardless of how many Department of Defense, WHO and RAND corporation studies say that it is non-cancer causing.

There is a fascinating article by the folks over at Global Research on the topic of DU in Iraq:

Depleted Uranium Radioactive Contamination In Iraq: An Overview


S & F this thread people!

Great post you beat me to it. DU is a disgusting thing and it is in practically every munition the "coalition" is using over there but it is completely ignored in the media and in my opinion should be illegal.

What use is liberating a country if you poison it forever.


[edit on 15-11-2009 by Beefcake]



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 06:52 PM
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I dcont know what the big deal is. Its SO stating the obvious. Birth defect rates, cancer rates, etc all go up in places where intense battles have been fought. Thats why war is ugly...folks know the death doesnt stop with the end of fighting.

What is the NEWS here?



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 07:03 PM
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There is nothing funny about this article other than the timing. I suggest you check out a film called "Beyond Treason" It is not for the faint of heart. One of the quotes from the film is the Iraqi parents no longer ask if their newborn is a boy or a girl - now they ask is it normal. It's truly deplorable what we hae done to these peoples lands, and what has been done will likely never be undone. Please check out the film.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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No, I completely agree with you. Obama has shown himself to be no different than Bush, etc, etc. Corporatism at it's finest!

I just made the comment since we were taking about the invasion of Iraq specifically.

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Even if it was illegal, which it most certainly should be, the US would still probably use it. Does anyone remember this article provided by the BBC back in 2005?


US troops used white phosphorus as a weapon in last year's offensive in the Iraqi city of Falluja, the US has said.

"It was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants," spokesman Lt Col Barry Venable told the BBC - though not against civilians, he said.

The US had earlier said the substance - which can cause burning of the flesh - had been used only for illumination.

BBC defence correspondent Paul Wood says having to retract its denial is a public relations disaster for the US.

Col Venable denied that white phosphorous constituted a banned chemical weapon.


BBC 16 November 2005: US used white phosphorus in Iraq


Of course the US didn't sign that little piece of paper that outlaws it's use, so Washington technically has carte blanche to use it. Some info on whether or not white phosphorous is carcinogenic: White phosphorus



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 07:13 PM
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This isn't business as usual here. DU is a crime against humanity. These peoples lands have been laid to waste due to our actions. In a fair fight a guy with a gun meets on a field with a guy with a gun and one of them leaves. This is no fair fight we are talking about here and this is not what people have come to expect from war. Collateral damage is understood but "WE" will never leave these lands as they were - we have destroyed these lands and people for too many generations to come. watch the film.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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And what exactly were we supposed to do? Insurgents from Fallujah were killing Americans and Iraqis. We did what we had to do to pacify that city and we did it. Its unfortunate what happened in the long run, it really is. But I don't see how it is "evil" or "criminal."

Why doesn't anybody have anything to say about the atrocities committed by the Iraqi insurgency? Are the unitnended effects of DU that much worse than an insurgent injecting Iraqi civilians with gasoline?



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Chemical weapons attacks on the Kurds?
Who did that? Ah yes, that guy found hiding in a hole.
How many times were the people attacked and over how many years?
How many deaths and defects attributed to those attacks?
Does anyone even know? Has anyone bothered to interview them?
Has anyone (international agency) bothered with their cause?
Why no press coverage? Why no outrage?





[edit on 15-11-2009 by LadySkadi]



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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Is it possible that the soldiers in Iraq that we have there are going to be there until the succumb to whatever the situation becomes? Perhaps we're clearing the country out so that we have a hell hole training ground for our troops. Send them off to fight the 'enemy' over in Iraq when every native has fled or died a generation ago.

In all seriousness, the long term side effects of DU are deplorable if they are the cause. But if it were, there should be a pretty marked effect in the soldiers over there as well. Consider the fact that they handle and maintain DU ammo, which is surely more time then the average Fullujan would have. But, as far as I know, there hasn't been a spike of birthrates among Iraq veterans. Discounting DU, and considering the love of chemical weaponry the previous dictators held, I wouldn't discount Saddam poisoning the wells in his final years.



posted on Nov, 15 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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And how did Saddam Hussein get the means to wage biological warfare on the Kurds and the Iranians?

How Saddam Happened

In 1983 George P. Schultz authorized the sale of helicopters to Iran, shortly after Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam in Baghdad to discuss, among other things, the proposed Bechtel pipeline; Bechtel being the company of which Mr. Schultz was the president. These helicopters were fitted with "crop dusting capabilities", and at the end of the Iran-Iraq war it was determined that these very helicopters were used in biological weapon attacks.

Also:


According to Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, in a December 15, 1986 article, the CIA began to secretly supply Iraq with intelligence in 1984 that was used to “calibrate” mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. Beginning in early 1985, the CIA provided Iraq with “data from sensitive US satellite reconnaissance photography … to assist Iraqi bombing raids”.


How the US armed Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons

Going back to the DU issue though; it's extremely possible that this will not only harm the Iraqi people, but also our troops: Poisoning from depleted uranium is suspected causes of Gulf War Syndrome.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 02:49 AM
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So, is it true that there is DU in bombs & missiles as well as bullets made from it? I ask because, whilst I disagree with their use, I can at least understand the rational behind DU bullets: they are denser & thus deliver more kinetic energy to the same size impact area than a lead bullet, making them more likely to penetrate armour. However, if it is used in explosives as well, I really cant see why, other than for its radiological effect, which surely must be considered a crime against humanity?
As for the idea that DU cannot be responsible because troops handle such munitions & aren't having deformed kids, the troops handle it in containers which are no doubt designed with their protection in mind; the ammunition is whole, not fragmented or burned scattering particulates all over; its not in their food supply & I'd bet that before any military base is established, engineers check out the site for potential health hazards, like low level radiation. I'd be interested to know what type of treatment goes into preparing their water supply too.
In any case, low level radiation poisoning is well understood to cause chronic fatigue & immune deficiency, both of which have been cited as symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome, so perhaps DU is doing troops some harm, just not as much as the Iraqis that are exposed to more of it.
Edit to add: good job, OP. S&F


[edit on 16/11/09 by Bunken Drum]



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:15 AM
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It won't be long before you find the same evidence beginning to happen here.
Those dust clouds filled with DU circle the globe.
What goes around comes around.
This is why I believe there can never be "a new earth" here.
No matter what kind of Utopia men envision for the future, it can never be.
DU has a half life of over 4 billion years.
The earth is finished. Human reproduction is finished.
Any civiliation that does continue on this planet will reproduce horrors or not reproduce humans as we have known them, ever again.
Maybe this is why the race for clones.



posted on Nov, 16 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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Its not like the battle in falluja couldn't have been won without the USE of DU. America has the biggest military on the face of the planet, is it really necessary to lace your weapons with radioactive material to win a battle?



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