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Originally posted by thedeadtruth
I personally think the idea of evolution reflects the idea of God more than most religions do.
Infinite possibilities over infinite time in an infinite universe VS A restricted timeline, set species that never change with us being the ONLY Gods children.
I say God = Evolution
I think the thing everybody is missing in this argument is some people do not the intellectual capacity to comprehend evolution. I am not being rude.
Infinite possibilities over infinite time in an infinite universe VS A restricted timeline
I agree with that logic entirely. Sometimes to uncover the absolute truth you need to break down beliefs, extend, and explore infinite possibility. Even consider the possibility that everything you know could be wrong
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by rnaa
Didn't read the whole thread did you? Just saying because you would not be making that silly statement if you had....
[edit on 20-11-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]
Originally posted by dodadoom
10 ways Darwin got it wrong.
#1 The warm pond theory
The scientific evidence indicates that life did not and could not somehow arise spontaneously from some warm little pond, as Darwin thought. What we find from the evidence around us and from the fossil record is that, as the law of biogenesis states, life can only arise from life.
#2 The supposed simplicity of the cell.
......So it turns out that cells are far more complex and sophisticated than Darwin could have conceived of. How did mere chance produce this, when even human planning and engineering cannot? In fact, no laboratory has come close to replicating even a single human hair!
#3 His ideas about information inside the cell.
Because he believed in the simplicity of the information of the cell, he came up with a theory called "pangenesis," where huge variations simply popped out of cells at random—something that was later proven to be entirely false.
Everything we know about DNA indicates that it programs a species to remain within the limits of its own general type. Genetic changes that do occur are typically small and inconsequential, while large mutations, rather than producing improved and novel designs, are overwhelmingly harmful to the organism's survival.
the first quote you make about pools of life !
well lightning when striking pools of chemcials which are rich in nutrients and minerals , along with high voltages and gamma radiation , lightning creates complex amino acids , which are the building blocks of DNA !
the second quote seems to be so silly its unbelievable , of course darwin couldnt have imagined the complexity of the human cell or animal cell, because DNA hadnt been discovered and microscopes still in their infancy!
Of course your human brain would cause you to come up with often absurd explanations !
humans not understanding their environment or wondering how earthquakes ,volcanoes,tidal waves , hurricanes , plagues or otherwise without explanation gave them fanciful ideas that they were created by gods !
and your third quote isnt very well thought through, genetic variations while on the whole are small , in the long run ensure the survival of a species , take a look at the moths in industrial britain , they evolved and developed a darker hair surface as industrial britain had covered all the trees in pollution , the moths adapted through evolution and changed to match the trees , the darker moths werent eaten by preditors the moths that didnt adapt died. its quite simple really!
Originally posted by NatureBoy
cambrian explosion can't be explained.
This has got me thinking, i had a quick flick though thE WAY THE LIGHT THE TRUTH THE DIVINE WORD OF GAWWWWDDDDD - my bible's sorta suggest that god created all the animals at once... you know the bit where he creates all the animals and people in a week? Yeah genesis does say that, it neglects to mention anything about a cambrian or precambrian era, in fact most christian sects teach or taught that the world is around 6000 years old!
I'm interested, i've taken the time to explain many areas of science and history as seen from a twenty first century perspective, just read some of my previous posts for detailed descriptions of how we came to be here - would you be so kind as to grace us with the version of creation you believe?
How god explains the cambrian explosion, how god explains the fossil record, how god explains the DNA family tree, etc, etc
Or "God's" way of "creating" was evolution in such a way one would not be able to tell if it was happening at random or was being "guided" so to speak.
Originally posted by pteridine
If an infinitely intelligent creator created the universe with the big bang [let there be light] wouldn't that creator be skilled enough so as not to need to further intervene?.......
Now, explain again what is wrong with evolution.
In a infinitely intelligent creator's universe randomness doesn't exist
It also just doesn't work with materialist science that intelligence is the result of random process. If naturalism is true , then your cognitive faculties are the result of blind random processes, chemical reactions and the laws of physics. Thus there is absolutely no reason that they should be trusted to find truth. Naturalism and Darwinism are contradictory beliefs.
So are you saying that god is unable to create randomness?
"And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together." (Col 1:17)
Explain the last sentence..