Here's some interesting stuff, page 1

You don't need to totally consider this debunked. It is still a viable topic. Just ask those drilling in North Dakota right now this minute.

That formation was left alone because the nature of recovering it drove the price to high, but with modern methods and prices its now a goldmine.

That pales in comparison to what lies under the Overthrust Belt (Wyoming, Idaho, Utah) and does not take into consideration the vast reserve of natural gas lying under the Wyoming High Desert.

Some was developed on the Overthrust Belt but most was tied up waiting for the various States to determine Royalties which ended up on the shelf in the State Legislatures back in the late 1970's through the early 1980's. The general consensus in the rumor mill in the Oil Industry, of which I was a part at that time, is the States were influenced by the Fed's to keep it in the ground by shelving the needed legislation.

The pools under the Overthrust Belt when the estimates were published were estimated to "rival the Saudi Oil reserves". As time went by, it was forgotten by the public at large, but the oil and natural gas is still there, located, tested and could be produced at any time.

Add to this the Oil Shale reserves in Colorado which were estimated to be enough to fuel the US needs for 300 years and you can see we are not even close to Peak Oil and never have been. A test plant to refine from the incredibly high grade Oil Shale in that area was built and proven to be viable in the 1970's. The Fed's shut it down. I knew two people working there at the time. They simply mothballed it without reason.

The reserves in Alaska pale in comparison to the area's I just mentioned but could be online in under "3 years" due to the infrastructure being in place. Modern drilling techniques pose no risk to the environment and it boggles the mind why they won't let the drilling start up, right now, this minute.

I had many conversations with everyone from the owners of Wildcat Outfits to Company Hands that would descend on the rigs in their helicopters whenever anything went amiss on a hole. The general view back then was what I've seen discussed here; that we were hoarding our nations oil to deplete other countries oil reserves first.

I noticed on the other thread that was shut down, that somebody thought they had debunked this by pointing to a table of current oil production. That has nothing to do with potential oil production should we lift the moratorium on drilling and constructing refineries. Those numbers are irrelevant to potential oil production.

Obviously the real reason we get any oil at all from outside is financial and to benefit a select few. It certainly hurts "We the People".

OP, you did not really debunk any of this. The truth is, we have oil coming out of our backsides and because of Federal Regulation, Environmental Regulation, Licensing Processes that take decades and the cost of frivolous, phony law suits by radical organizations funded by "unnamed" Beltway Insiders, nobody is dumb enough to pursue it. When the Fed's don't want you to do something, they make it so expensive you simply give up and that's what happened with oil.

We should be paying under a dollar a gallon for gas, but thanks to whoever pocketed all the overseas oil money, we take it up the keaster (forgive my coarse language). We should be exporting not importing. That is simply a fact.

The first time I read something about Peak Oil, I nearly fell out of my chair over the nerve of the people who invented that idea. Those same dipsticks taught us in the early 70's that we would be completely out of oil, fish and farmland by now. You see this particular game has been going on since before most of you were born and if you think you can verify all this on the Internet, think again. You have to go to the source or work for them to know these things. The people who are hiding this from you own the newspapers, the universities, the broadcast news and about everything else.

As an example of how bad it is and how evil these people are, take a look at Alaska. Congress was shown a video of an area about 130 miles from where we want to drill and told a lie. They knew it was a lie, but used it as cover. Caribou do not traverse the area to be drilled, it is a salt marsh with nothing but hoards of mosquito's. No Wildlife would be endangered. It is all a bald faced lie. The drilling is only done in the winter when the herds have gone south and the pipelines pose no risk.

In 2001 the DNC flew 100 Native Americans from the lower 48 to stage a anti-oil rally in Nome. CNN flew up a film crew. They presented the 100 people who had never lived here, plus the single authentic Inuit they could find opposed to drilling, as all being Native Alaskans by leaving the word Alaskans out of their reporting. It was so egregious even our local far Left newspaper here was appalled. Nome is not even near where the drilling would take place. It was a travesty and should insult all of you.

It's easier for them to get away with lying about stuff up here because of the sparse population and easy to buy politicians. That's why they keep the argument centered on us so often. They can fabricate whatever they want, knowing nobody will listen to the people who know the truth. It also keeps people from asking, what about the oil in North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado? All you hear about is Alaska.

Keep your eyes on Alaska and even North Dakota, but whatever you do, don't look towards the Overthrust Belt or the Colorado Oil Shale because, shhhhhhh, its a secret

Other questions people should ask themselves are:

What affordable clean energy alternatives?
Where are they?
Name the companies?
Document their existence?
Which Universities are working on them?
Which companies are ready to build the generation plants?
Where had ground been broken to build the generation plants?
How many jobs did it create?