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Scientology fined £545,000 in first conviction for fraud

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posted on Oct, 29 2009 @ 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Skyfloating
This is terrible news and means two things:

* Those who sign up for Scientology are not responsible for their own decisions/actions.

* Believers of various Religions can be sued for "Fraud" if they believe something not accepted by the mainstream.

* Scientologists can now act like a martyrs.

With all due respect Skyfloating... thats... ummm... three things!


posted on Oct, 29 2009 @ 07:26 AM
At least it is a beginning, this should also allow those ripped off in France to seek legal means for recovery. A good step in the right direction.

Ps. I'll bet that in less than 24 hours there will be a Scientologist either in here crowing about their "benefits" or the owner will get a cease and desist demand.

posted on Oct, 29 2009 @ 08:25 AM

Originally posted by RestingInPieces
How is Scientology any less of a religion than any other?

"Scientology president Heber Jentszch admitted several years ago that the six million number does not represent current membership but the total amount of people who have ever, since the founding in 1954, taken even a single Scientology course" Tony Ortega, Village Voice, June 24, 2008

"And my philosophy is why not kick a dog when it's down?" L Ron Hubbard 20 April 1955

"We are not a turn the other cheek religion"

Scientologist Lawyer Earle C Cooley on CNN after the copyright raids of activists homes in 1995

Scientology is not a religious community but an "extremist grouping" that needs to be banned, said Udo Nagel, the interior minister of the northern German state of Hamburg. "Germany, as well as Belgium, France, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Spain, Israel and Mexico, remain unconvinced that Scientology is a religion." -

"SCIENTOLOGISTS DO NOT WORSHIP" wrote Heber Jentszch, as President of the Church of Scientology International in a signed letter to Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby. (From the legal archives)


And this snippet from L Ron Hubbard's own books:
"It is not a psychotherapy or religion" L Ron Hubbard
(Bottom of same page above)

So what is it? It is a terroristic international psychopolitical hypnosis scam, that runs an intelligence agency, LINK whose purpose is to create people who can be covertly controlled while propagating the tenets of the Third Reich LINK, disguised by their archane nomenclature, throughout US society, while demonizing alien life, that may be tied to the renegade (nazi) black budget (MAJESTIC) programs...see Greer Obama briefing
here on ATS HERE

it's worse than you think!

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posted on Oct, 29 2009 @ 03:02 PM
Nice one seataka. I think they might be a ScienceDegradingHypnoticScamTerroristFraudulent Organization.

posted on Oct, 29 2009 @ 10:47 PM
SKOR-TJ - (grin)

Re the thread title, yes this is the first conviction of Scientology as a corporation for FRAUD


Hubbard himself was convicted of FRAUD in 1978 see Catholic Sentinel 1978 LINK

And the organization AS an organization was convicted of "Breach of the public trust" in Canada, upheld despite an appeal to Canada's Supreme Court in 1994 LINK

The case above also resulted in a libel suit, where Scientology was forced pay the highest libel settlement in Canadian history to, I believe it was the chief prosecutor in that case!

And then of course there is the conviction of Hubbard's own wife and 13 other big shots, with jail time served in US vs Mary Sue Hubbard criminal case for conspiracy, burglary et al of US Government buildings, in the largest domestic spying case in US history..

Criminal Case No. 78-00401
Grand Jury Original

Violations: 18 U.S.C. §§ 2, 371, 641, 1503, 1623 2511
(1) (a) (Conspiracy,
Theft of Government Property,
Aiding and Abetting,
Obstruction of Justice,
False Declaration Before A Grand Jury,
Interception of Oral Communication)
22 D.C. Code §§ 105, 1801(b) (Burglary, Aiding and Abeting)



Why haven't the feds shut them down?

I don't know, but a DC lawyer named Levine said "They have friends in high places" - black budget places? In the 70's their "flagship' the Apollo was registered to a Panama corporation or maybe its a Florida corp... named "MAJESTIC CRUISE LINES"

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posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 10:04 PM
reply to post by seataka

So sounds like a success club.
And a healthy club.
Otherwise one should not apply.

posted on Oct, 30 2009 @ 11:46 PM
ohh it this makes me feel warm inside
thanks for sharing s&f

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 08:26 PM
Guardian UK LINK

"Most religious organisations can weather a high-profile defection or two. Many might successfully explain away a fraud conviction in a foreign criminal court, or deal with the spectacular suicide of a member, or muddle through a less than stellar public performance by a prominent spokesman."

"Rarely, though, does a religion have to face up to all these challenges in the same week."

It mentions Tommy Davis's stint as toilet toothbrusher, LOL.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 08:31 PM
I do wonder how many others are they Scientology going to rape them of thier finances, before everyone see them as they are.


And not a religion.

Beggars Believe I swear it..

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 08:42 PM
Great news! Now if we can just get rid of those Mormons who believe that the Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri...

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 09:09 PM

Originally posted by nightmarehalo
Great news! Now if we can just get rid of those Mormons who believe that the Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri...

Mormons, for all their silly ideas, do not require payments for endless "courses" that will give them "super powers", vis.

"No one has yet been able to exhibit any of these so-called super-human abilities, which on average cost USD 360,000, but many people are still trying. Some have been on these upper levels for as long as fifteen to twenty years."

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 09:19 PM
For those who don't know the "core" beliefs of Scientology here they are.

The most important secret of the upper levels is found on OT 3, called the Wall of Fire in Scientology. It is on this level that one learns the "secrets of the universe." One learns Hubbard's so-called truth about why human beings are so limited in their abilities, and what can be done to correct this. Hubbard's "diagnosis" for the suffering and insanity on this planet is the OT 3 incident - the "Fourth Dynamic Engram" in Hubbardspeak. Many people characterize this as the core belief of Scientology but it is not -- it is in fact the entire CORE of Scientology.

Here is Hubbard's so-called factual and scientific truth that all Scientologist's must not only accept as reality but experience as reality: 75 million years ago, the galactic overlord for this sector of the galaxy was called Xenu. He was in charge of 76 planets, including Earth (at that time known as Teegeeack).

All of the planets Xenu controlled were over-populated by, on average, 178 billion people. Social problems dictated that Xenu rid his sector of the galaxy of this overpopulation problem, so he developed a plan.

Xenu sent out tax audit demands to all these trillions of people. As each one entered the audit centers for the income tax inspections, the people were seized, held down and injected with a mixture of alcohol and glycol, and frozen. Then, all 13.5 trillion of these frozen people were put into spaceships that looked exactly like DC8 airplanes, except that the spaceships had rocket engines instead of propellers.

Xenu's entire fleet of DC8-like spaceships then flew to planet Earth, where the frozen people were dumped in and around volcanoes in the Canary Islands and the Hawaiian Islands. When Xenu's Air Force had finished dumping the bodies into the volcanoes, hydrogen bombs were dropped into the volcanoes and the frozen space aliens were vaporized.

However, Xenu's plan involved setting up electronic traps in Teegeeack's atmosphere which were designed to trap the souls or spirits of the dead space aliens. When the 13.5 trillion spirits were being blown around on the nuclear winds, the electronic traps worked like a charm and captured all the souls in the electronic, sticky fly-paper like traps.

The spirits of the aliens were then taken to huge multiplex cinemas that Xenu had previously instructed his forces to build on Teegeeack. In these movie theaters the spirits had to spend many days watching special 3-D movies, the purpose of which was twofold: 1) to implant into these spirits a false reality, i.e. the reality that WOGS (Hubbard's derisory term for anyone not a Scientologists) know on Earth today; and, 2) to control these spirits for all eternity so that they could never cause trouble for Xenu in this sector of the Galaxy. During these films, many false pictures and stories were implanted into these spirits, which resulted in the spirits believing in all the things that control mankind on Earth today, including religion. The concept of religion, including God, Christ, Mohammed, Moses etc., were all an implanted false reality that to this very minute are used to control WOGS on Earth.

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema, they started to stick together in clusters of a few thousand and remained that way until mankind began to inhabit the Earth. Today on Earth all the spirits of these aliens have attached themselves to our bodies and are the root cause of the false reality that all but Scientology's "Homo Novis" or OT 8's on earth experience. It is the job of all Scientologists to remove this false reality from the world by auditing each and every space alien spirit and human on earth and the entire universe to CLEAR. For those who oppose Scientology and stand in their way like the Lisa McPherson Trust and all Scientology critics, Scientology promises to do away with them "quietly and without sorrow".

We have calculated that on average, each person on planet earth has 2,209 of these Body Thetans (BT's for short), Hubbard's term for the alien spirits, attached to you causing you to be constrained by Xenu's false reality. The average cost for Scientology to OT 8 is a mere USD 360,000, meaning that each BT only costs USD 163 to clear. Now that is a bargain if there ever was one.

Hubbard never said the overall cost to the planet would be cheap, but let's examine it. The planetary cost equation is as follows: 13.5 trillion spirits times USD 163 equals a mere USD 2,205,000,000,000,000. Just think about it -- USD 2.2 quadrillion -- WOW!, that's enough to keep Rear Admiral Miscavige, the current head of Scientology and Marty Rathbun, his number two, in casino chips for a long time.

To finish the "factual" account, the Loyal Officers of the Marcab Confederation finally discovered how evil Xenu was and overthrew him. He is now locked away in a mountain on one of the planets and kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery. Several of Xenu's relatives can often be found on the internet newsgroup called alt.religion.scientology (or ARS for short) battling Scientology daily.

posted on Nov, 1 2009 @ 09:28 PM

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posted on Nov, 2 2009 @ 12:36 AM
Tommy Davis, spokesperson for Scientology in 45 minute unedited interview admits Xenu story...

posted on Nov, 2 2009 @ 12:47 AM
This reply is going to be short and sweet.... (i know, i had to add this line)

theirs only two words i can think of for this situation......


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