reply to post by Erasurehead
No, apparently nobody noticed this "mystery object" during the past 40 years. Considering that it's large enough to be observed by amateur
astronomers, you'd think that someone would have taken note of it.
That's why it's potentially "novel".
There have been some arguments presented that it was a rocket stage that went off into a long orbit and has now come back and settled into an
apparently stable orbit round our planet. Words to that effect, anyway.
I'm not an astrophysicist so I can't offer a true assessment of that idea. It's clear, though, that people who do
understand things of this
nature are reluctant to give any definitive answer until they've had a chance to observe this "mystery object" more closely. That's a sensible
By the end of tonight (29th Oct), plenty of people will have had a chance to observe this object. They should then be able to determine exactly what
it is -- or at the very least, eliminate what it isn't
, which could also be useful. In science, it's not always about finding the answer
right off the bat. It's about excluding the wrong ones.
I still assert that this is the only event of any note in the past few days that has the potential in and of itself
to be classed as "novel".
All the others, though interesting and/or in many cases even tragic, don't qualify as truly novel on the basis of the events themselves. They are all
variations on themes of events that have occurred before -- many, many times.
However, for the sake of those who haven't read much of the thread and simply say "nothing happened", it's worth repeating that we won't
necessarily know right away if any one event is the trigger/catalyst that leads to something truly novel, something that would have far-reaching
effects for virtually all of us. There are numerous examples of past events that were novel but not generally known to the public at the time and some
of them have been mentioned in this thread.
Those who naysay have a right to do that, but it would also be good if they'd at least acknowledge the fact that we are not privy to everything that
goes on in the world, and just because we don't find a certain event in the media (with a link), that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'm not
saying that as a cop-out, I'm stating it as a plain fact.
Some of the negative comments on this thread have been puerile in the extreme and I am dismayed by their baseness and the way they reflect on the
members who posted them, members who in some cases I had thought were far more erudite and eloquent than that.
I think the OP has said it often enough: this thread is not
about making predictions. It's about gathering some of the reported events from
around the world that might have relevance to the predictions that have been made elsewhere.
That is the way I read it, at least. For me, it's not even about being a "believer". It's an interesting exercise in analysis, and it's about
having some kind of data resource that might be useful if a future event occurs, to see if that event is directly related to any that occurred during
the past few days. With the proviso, of course, that any "trigger" event is one that we are even allowed to know about.
The Manhattan Project is a good analogy... Few knew about it while it was in progress, but virtually the whole world knew of its consequences in
August of 1945. I doubt that even then, very many people knew that Hitler's own scientists had been working on a similar project (started well before
the Manhattan project) and had gotten very close before Allied efforts intervened to slow them down. It was the knowledge of what Nazi Germany was
doing that spurred on the project on our side.
In total secrecy from the general public, of course.
With regards to this thread's value, it's also an opportunity to assemble a resource that could be useful in the future, if in fact absolutely
nothing of major novelty derives from the events of the past few days.
To me, whatever the outcome, it's a worthwhile project.
Why, then, are such efforts being decried?