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reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 11:19 AM by amantine
It's object nr. 259823 of the MFA catalogue: source.

The MFA catalogue says only this about the monster depicted:
A. Mayor has recently interpreted the head of the "dragon" as an image inspired by the sight of a fossil skull emerging from a cliff (see The First Fossil Hunters, Princeton, 2000, pages 157-165).


This article says:
Art scholars have generally interpreted the monster (yellow face at right) as a sea serpent emerging from a black cave, but Mayor and a group of paleontologists think the creature might actually be the fossil skull of an extinct giraffe eroding out of a hillside. Mayor's analysis of the vase painting appears in the February OXFORD JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGY.


The monster does look more like a skull than a real dinosaur head to me. We would expect to find a lot of dinosaur remains if they lived as recently as 2500 years ago. If dinosaurs existed then, wouldn't there be a lot more depictions?


reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 11:48 AM by BlackJackal
Ok so the monster of Troy was a dead Giraffe?? Why would hercules need to kill a dead Giraffee? I don't think I need to comment on that.

Have we forgot about the ICA Stones

paranormal.about.com...

Known collectively as the Ica Stones (they are found in Ica, Peru), these rocks, varying in size from that of a baseball to twice that of a basketball, are hand-etched with pictures of primitive fish, dinosaurs and Indians using what appear to be tools of advanced technology.


Also take a look here

www.answersingenesis.org...



reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 01:17 PM by amantine
Originally posted by BlackJackal
Just a guess by archeologist Mayor that cannot be proven. And could you provide a link to the proof against the ICA stones.


Against a guess by a forum poster that cannot be proven? It's interesting that it's a non-standard Archaic Greek monster depiction, but it proves nothing. I'm convinced by Mayor's thesis either. The standard art historians opinion that it is a depiction of a monster similar to Δρακονες, dragons, or Κητεα, seamonsters emerging from a cave. The head shape is similar.


Δρακον (source)


Κητος (source)

More Greek monsters here.

On the Ica stones I quote Byrd (source):
Actually, if you take a long look at these things, you'll start to recognize them as frauds.

You see, the first ones depicted dinosaurs as we thought they looked in the 1920's. There's no sophisitcated treatments and corrected stances there, and the details of the dinos are quite wrong.

Later on, you'll see that they suddenly start taking on a more modern appearance and the more recent ones to turn up look (gee whiz) a lot like the ones on the Discovery Channel and in museums.

This is a hallmark of a fraud.

If they were for real, the stones would have given us information that we didn't know (correct proportions of dinos, correct stances) and which we would have only later found to be correct.


BTW, BlackJackal, do you remember to send me the corrections/additions? I really want them .

[Edited on 18-5-2004 by amantine]


reply posted on 18-5-2004 @ 03:26 PM by BlackJackal
Originally posted by amantine
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source):
Actually, if you take a long look at these things, you'll start to recognize them as frauds.

You see, the first ones depicted dinosaurs as we thought they looked in the 1920's. There's no sophisitcated treatments and corrected stances there, and the details of the dinos are quite wrong.

Later on, you'll see that they suddenly start taking on a more modern appearance and the more recent ones to turn up look (gee whiz) a lot like the ones on the Discovery Channel and in museums.

This is a hallmark of a fraud.

If they were for real, the stones would have given us information that we didn't know (correct proportions of dinos, correct stances) and which we would have only later found to be correct.




Alright according to the logic that Byrd used the above image of a horse should be a fraud because it does not represent how a real horse looks or stands. Yet it is a real artifact made by the Han Dynasty.

www.svam.org...

As for them changing overtime Byrd is the only one I have ever heard say that.

BTW as for the additions I should be able to complete them by tonight or tommorrow.


reply posted on 5-6-2004 @ 11:52 PM by GildedHammer
Here is another link to look at.

www.genesispark.com...

The theory I stand with is that the dinosaurs have died off by both the meteor and by the depleting magnetic field and atmoshere, cold weather, flood etc. Their brains and body mass would slow them down if there was a pole shift. There is science that states that the magnetic field was three time what it currently now is. Man was even larger in some cases.

It's interesting that different regions of the world have dipictions of these types of creatures in their lore or on artifacts, any how even if we never see eye to eye on this matter it's cool that you brought it up.


reply posted on 6-6-2004 @ 12:06 AM by 2012
According to the Bible Code account at the Bible Code Website www.onealclan.com (one direct page is to onealclan0.tripod.com...), all dinosaurs were killed prior to humans appearing on the planet. Scientists agree that humans could never have evolved had the dinosaurs not been killed off first.

At the Code website, we learn that isn't only in scientific theory and the hidden text of the Torah, it's in the plain text of Genesis. I don't know how many times I had read that verse and missed it completely.
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