posted on Oct, 20 2009 @ 05:03 AM
Thought I may bring up a political topic held near and dear by im sure both sides of the political pond... that be lobbyists, our dislike for them and
our requests to have them removed. Looking back to the 2008 elections I must say I found it rather naive for Obama, McCain, Hillary, Huckabee, Ron
Paul (yes him too for many of those ATSers here) and kucinich to ramble on about how "lobbyists" need to be removed, or that once they get into
office they "would not be welcomed". Its BS ofcourse, we all know it, Im pritty darn sure they know it, but really at that time, at a place it
always scores points I guess to walk with the pitch forked crowd... especially during the financial crises and the bail-outs... but really aint
"getting the lobbyists out of DC" more a complicated scenario?
The issue of DC "lobbyists" isnt anything new, and lets not forget that there have been attempts in the past to get right of DC corporate
lobbyists... Take for example the lobbyist disclosure act 1995 which was intended to bring by the least more transparency from lobbyists
especially those of corporate interests but was met with opposition. Groups in defense of these lobbying tactics argued that it didnt matter what
"interests" anybody is representing, our first ammendment freedoms with our "rights to petition" cannot be interfered by government... so
that was an issue then... and lets not forget about the loopholes where this act excluded smaller donors... so there were complications in that
The ofcourse there was the "ethics reform" bill back in 04' although that one was again met with opposition, this time by the NRA, american
civil liberties union and national right to life commitee....
So to be clear.... it isnt as simply as getting rid of corporate interests out of Washington. Lets not forget first ammendment rights apply to all,
the rights to petition apply to all. As much as I hate to say it, constitutionally speaking, those corporate lobbyists have those same
constitutional rights as we do... and it is frustrating at that fact.
I mean folks talk about "why hasnt Obama gotten rid of those lobbyists, why hasnt Bush done anything" or my favourite, "Ron Paul would have kicked
em out"... Im mean really? Ron Paulers and libertarians likewise feel strongly against the lobbyists presence in DC just as much as anybody else...
but the thing I dont get... these lobbyists are still in DC protected by the very constitutional right ron paulers and libertarians have been
advocating for.... constitutional ammendment rights, the rights to petition, and lets not forget the "free market" and its loosened laws on anybody
to the right to petition the government. So admittedly Im rather confused as to why Paulers and libertarians alike support the kicking out of
lobbyists, despite the fact the pure free market system outright protects their rights... maybe a fellow ATSer can explain this to me...
But the main thing Im thinkin bout' here is what do we do? We cannot simply kick these individuals out. They are american citizens as well, they
reserve that right to petition. If we were in court and the lobbyists were defending themselves... what would you say to them if they claimed their
rights to petition under the first ammendment? We cannot simply strip that away? What do we do? The lobbyist situation is far more complicated than
just kicking them out.... conservative, liberal or libertarian.... whats the solution??
[edit on 20-10-2009 by Southern Guardian]