Mix 1 retired teacher few old parts and what do get? backyard hydrogen conversion , page 1

I, myself have been tinkering with my own hho system, also called Brown's gas, for about a year now. Like this guy, I have done alot of reading and practical application to this subject.

There seems to be alot of speculation going on in this thread so let me try to shed some light on this in layman's terms-

-Your altenator has a fairly consistent production rate. When you don't have your lights, flashers, stereo, dome light, tow package etc. on, this electricity is pretty much just grounded away. The power consuption of an hho unit is ideally between 12-17 amps which really isn't that much. Ever blow out a fuse? The number on the fuse is how many amps it took to blow it. So in a nutshell, you already have the needed energy to produce hho, your just letting it go to waste.

The physics behind hho is that gasoline, although very volatile, doesn't burn that quickly. You are only using about 20% of the actual fuel. The rest goes out your tailpipe! Hydrogen produces one of the most quickest and powerful punches when ignited. So by introducing hydrogen into your air intake system you're supplying basically an additive to your gas to help it burn quicker which in turn produces more bang for the buck while in your engine's piston cylinder before it gets pushed out your exhaust pipe.

Your natual gas/propane systems have what they call flame arresters on them to prevent the ignited gases from going back into the line due to loss of pressure. Now here's the part that scares everybody. Hho burns so quick that these 'arrestors' don't work! The flame goes by them so fast that they don't even get a chance to work. What you use is called a 'bubbler' which is place as close to your engine as possible which is nothing more than a coleum of water in which the hho passes through thus breaking the gasses up into indivisual bubbles so that a chain reaction does not happen due to a backfire of your engine which brings us to the next issue.

-By introducing the right amount of this 'additive', the gases will ignite before your gasoline does. This basically is like a giant spark igniting your gasoline instead of that little one coming from the sparkplugs. By introducing this big flash fire, you inturn ignite more of the gasoline at once. Now your car's timing (the spark) is set to so many degrees before your piston is at the top of it's cycle to begin the powerstroke down (called BTC or 'before top dead center'). This is because of the nature of gasoline buning so slow that by the time your piston is at the top of it's cycle (TC or 'top center') enough fuel is burning to push it down (the powerstroke). Hho now remember, burns super fast so when it gets ignited before the piston has a chance to get to the top, you can end up with 'pinging' due to premature ignition of the gasoline which can cause a backfire due to your intake valve being just slightly open. But by burning more of your gasoline, your O2 sensor is reading a 'lean mixture' which means that the engine isn't getting enough gasoline. Are you starting to get the jist of what our automobile manufacturer's are doing? So to compensate for this it tells your computer to dump more gasoline into the system. Now we get into the 'hacking' of the engine works.

- First you need to set your timing (the spark) closer to the top of your powerstroke since more of your gasoline is being ignited at one time than before. Then you need to change the message that that nasty little O2 sensor is trying to tell your car's computer. The best way to do this is this little circuit box that can be bought for about 40-60 bucks that gives a new message to your computer that all is well.

Why you may ask, If hho is such a good fuel, why can't I just get rid of the gasoline?- PRODUCTION! To produce hho does use more energy than you can get out of the gas at today's technology but your just wasting that energy anyways by not using it from your altenator in your car.

I hope that I explained the basics of the hho system easy enough for you to see where all of this excitement is coming from .