S&F.

It's only a matter of time now...Christian fundamentalists are outraged that we're exploring the galaxy. I remember once I had a "friendly" debate with a crazy Christian at college. I was discussing the probability of finding a planet with life, without any assistance. He said "That's impossile, we're the only life in the universe." I literally just started to crack up. Here was a 22 year old, insisting that humans were the lone species in the galaxy AND universe. It was pretty funny.

SandF on the good find.

Maybe someone can clear this up for me. Why does the planet have to be near Earth sized to sustain life? Is there a size limit on planets for being able to produce life? Why couldn't a much larger planet do it if the conditions were right?

Originally posted by DocEmrick
S&F.

It's only a matter of time now...Christian fundamentalists are outraged that we're exploring the galaxy. I remember once I had a "friendly" debate with a crazy Christian at college. I was discussing the probability of finding a planet with life, without any assistance. He said "That's impossile, we're the only life in the universe." I literally just started to crack up. Here was a 22 year old, insisting that humans were the lone species in the galaxy AND universe. It was pretty funny.

There are people who are still convinced that the world is flat......

There are many christians that fear if they believe in anything that could slightly disprove their beliefs they go with the ostrich head in the ground approach rather than listening to reason....While I'm not saying I don't believe in god (I do) but I'm not going to let my religion blind me to science

Interesting news. For some reason I have a tendency to feel like we either do or should know where most other planets are, so every time one, or in this case, a whole huge group, is discovered, it's pretty cool. It adds more mysteriousness to the universe I guess. Anyway, I'm sure the Nibiru crowd will be interested in this.

Originally posted by TheBinxMonster3

Originally posted by DocEmrick
S&F.

It's only a matter of time now...Christian fundamentalists are outraged that we're exploring the galaxy. I remember once I had a "friendly" debate with a crazy Christian at college. I was discussing the probability of finding a planet with life, without any assistance. He said "That's impossile, we're the only life in the universe." I literally just started to crack up. Here was a 22 year old, insisting that humans were the lone species in the galaxy AND universe. It was pretty funny.

There are people who are still convinced that the world is flat......

There are many christians that fear if they believe in anything that could slightly disprove their beliefs they go with the ostrich head in the ground approach rather than listening to reason....While I'm not saying I don't believe in god (I do) but I'm not going to let my religion blind me to science

I talked to a lot of Christians about evolution and the Earth. They said there's no way the Earth is billions of years old. They asked why there weren't fossils to prove that we evolved. They even denied that there was life farther past then Adam and Eve. They think Adam and Eve just started and poof there was humans. I believe that we will find information that puts religion and science hand in hand in my life time.

Originally posted by DocEmrick
S&F.

It's only a matter of time now...Christian fundamentalists are outraged that we're exploring the galaxy. I remember once I had a "friendly" debate with a crazy Christian at college. I was discussing the probability of finding a planet with life, without any assistance. He said "That's impossile, we're the only life in the universe." I literally just started to crack up. Here was a 22 year old, insisting that humans were the lone species in the galaxy AND universe. It was pretty funny.

With our current knowledge...he (crazy christian) is correct, unless you know something no one else does. Saying there is other life out their is just as crazy as saying there is a God.

Both (aliens and God) have never been seen, so how are you any different from him?

Peace

Originally posted by DocEmrick
S&F.

It's only a matter of time now...Christian fundamentalists are outraged that we're exploring the galaxy. I remember once I had a "friendly" debate with a crazy Christian at college. I was discussing the probability of finding a planet with life, without any assistance. He said "That's impossile, we're the only life in the universe." I literally just started to crack up. Here was a 22 year old, insisting that humans were the lone species in the galaxy AND universe. It was pretty funny.

Wow, second post in and we're already going off topic in order to start some Christian bashing agenda.

So then if that's the case then provided the evidence that we're not alone. Provide the hard cold evidence then and prove that "crazy" Christian wrong.

And before you go on to bash me for being some loony fundie, I'm not religious. And before you go one and call me ignorant of the subject, I am in fact a backyard amateur astronomer with a pile of books on the subject taller then you or I stacked. I do grasp our insignificance somewhat.

I personally do believe that we are not alone but I wouldn't be so arrogant and elite in my view to bash and ridicule someone elses belief being our views are not proven the least bit. So how is his wrong? Personally I think it was just another lame excuse to get the daily Christian bash in.

As far as the topic, thanks for the link! That's great news and finding new Planets is always exciting.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
SandF on the good find.

Maybe someone can clear this up for me. Why does the planet have to be near Earth sized to sustain life? Is there a size limit on planets for being able to produce life? Why couldn't a much larger planet do it if the conditions were right?

It's not that at all. Depends what kind of life you are asking about...Human life would need earth like conditions, depending on size of the planet, would have to be contrasted by a sun that equals our sun:earth ratio [I believe]. I'm sure there are planets beyond the size of our planet that can sustain life. Someone correct me if I am wrong..

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
With our current knowledge...he (crazy christian) is correct, unless you know something no one else does. Saying there is other life out their is just as crazy as saying there is a God.

Both (aliens and God) have never been seen, so how are you any different from him?

Peace

I don't dispute the fact that a Source of consciousness, or God if you prefer, exists. As far as aliens vs God, I think there is more substantial evidence for us to scientifically hypothesize that aliens potentially exist moreso than God. Whether that is on an intelligent or micro level has yet to be determined.

[edit on 19-10-2009 by DocEmrick]

Originally posted by DocEmrick

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
With our current knowledge...he (crazy christian) is correct, unless you know something no one else does. Saying there is other life out their is just as crazy as saying there is a God.

Both (aliens and God) have never been seen, so how are you any different from him?

Peace

I don't dispute the fact that a Source of consciousness, or God if you prefer, exists. As far as aliens vs God, I think there is more substantial evidence for us to scientifically hypothesize that aliens potentially exist moreso than God. Whether that is on an intelligent or micro level has yet to be determined.

[edit on 19-10-2009 by DocEmrick]

Hey DocEmrick,

I'm not saying there is a God, at least not an invisible one. I stand with you on the "source". Heck, I've witnessed many ufo's from orange orbs to black rectangles, but just because i've seen these things that I can't understand doesn't lead me to believe they are alien in nature, but rather unexplainable phenom.

I live in San Diego, so more then likely the things I've seen are military. The orange orbs are called "foo fighters" and have been on record since WW2 maybe even farther back. Using occums razor I derive they are most likely man made, but "I don't know".

Thanks for your response,

Peace

THIS discussion of God ad Aliens imprints the imagery of men arguing over the hue of the shadow cast on the cave walls. Is it akin to black or more of a white...?

btw, inside that cave i`m partaking in the group claiming that life elsewhere is statistically plausible (or quite certain -- we`re still figuring out the saturations of 'our' shadow).


On topic: great news OP. and more important then the discovery itself -- of this 32 planets -- is the realisation that our planet ins`t such an exception

"From [our] results, we know now that at least 40% of solar-type stars have low-mass planets. This is really important because it means that low-mass planets are everywhere, basically," explained Stephane Udry from Geneva University, Switzerland

Originally posted by maoklein
THIS discussion of God ad Aliens imprints the imagery of men arguing over the hue of the shadow cast on the cave walls. Is it akin to black or more of a white...?

btw, inside that cave i`m partaking in the group claiming that life elsewhere is statistically plausible (or quite certain -- we`re still figuring out the saturations of 'our' shadow).


On topic: great news OP. and more important then the discovery itself -- of this 32 planets -- is the realisation that our planet ins`t such an exception

"From [our] results, we know now that at least 40% of solar-type stars have low-mass planets. This is really important because it means that low-mass planets are everywhere, basically," explained Stephane Udry from Geneva University, Switzerland

Never said it wasn't possible. All things are possible. All I was saying is that at this moment in time, we are the only life we know of. When ET phones home...GREAT, until then who cares.

Like Kennedy said, "I could care less for space, we are only spending 7 million on the desalination of water and an ungodly amount on space, but if we are going to do it, we must be first"...."Second is nice, but it is second."...I'm paraphrasing, but it is something to that effect.

Kennedy was not interested in space at all. He only wanted to do it for the ego of the American Ideology.

We can't even feed people and we are worried about space....makes no sense. That's the only point I was trying to make. Why waste time on "possibilities" when we have real issues right here on earth?