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On stimulus jobs reporting, a big 'Oops'

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posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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I dont think that was a missprint... I mean the Bailout of U.S. Banks Gave a British Rum maker a $2.7 Billion Benefit...

It's true the company was paid to move it's production of Captain Morgan rum from one U.S. island -- Puerto Rico -- to another, namely St. Croix.

Yup even Burger King and Nascar got a handout...
Read about it here




posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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Goldman Sachs is preparing to dish out 23 billion dollars in bonuses this year alone.

So being that all of our government and the Fed officials are Goldman Sachs alumni then it is apparent where the bailout money is going! Wall St and banks.

Dow 10,000 whoopeeeeeee!



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:27 AM
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Our real enemy does not want to create jobs it wants a "New World Order"
or is that (new world oder) where it has complete control. This has become a global demand and the shedding of those who will not stand in line to receive their (proven toxic) vaccine and except their "chip" will not have much of a future. Jobs are NOT being created and old jobs most likely want return. How in Gods name can you claim to be a viable nation when well over half of our GDP is simply individuals (with to much credit available...no more now) depended on 24/7 shopping for cars and other large items. Its over now and those that are still blind will remain so. This country is bankrupt morally, financially and any other way that represents truth and meaning a billion or is quadrillion times over. There called derivatives.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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The number of young Americans without a job has exploded to 53.4 percent — a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. — meaning millions of Americans are staring at the likelihood that their lifetime earning potential will be diminished and, combined with the predicted slow economic recovery, their transition into productive members of society could be put on hold for an extended period of time.

www.nypost.com...

Remember what you grandmother said…. Idol hands are the devils work shop.
This age group tends to be the most easily manipulated by others. Especially when they are broke and just looking for something to do with there time. This is usually when the socialists swoop in promising a better way of life. This is why are current administration is not concerned about the rising unemployment rate and falling dollar. Its all part of there plan to radically change the US economy, If it wasn’t planed it’s conveniently working well for them.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


I dont think that was a missprint... I mean the Bailout of U.S. Banks Gave a British Rum maker a $2.7 Billion Benefit...

It's true the company was paid to move it's production of Captain Morgan rum from one U.S. island -- Puerto Rico -- to another, namely St. Croix.

Yup even Burger King and Nascar got a handout...
Read about it here


Well than heavens we did something good with the money!

I got a little of the Captain in me ```\



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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I'd be more concerned if I thought the government was actually going to keep an accounting of where all that money went.

Think of it this way, you have a group of kids, say 10-12 years old. You give each one of them $100 and tell them they're supposed to use it to make more money. You also tell them, expressly, that you're going to want an exact accounting how how they spent that money at the end of 6 months.

Do you really think those children are going to keep track of how they spent their money?? Do you really think they're not going to spend it on video games and candy??

Nope, and when they spend it all, they will probably come back to you and beg for more money.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
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Well than heavens we did something good with the money!

I got a little of the Captain in me ```\


Well heck all you need now is Whopper a fast car and a cut of the 700 billion, and counting... Maybe I should open a bank just to file for chapter 11 and have the FDIC buy me out...



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare


Originally posted by DaddyBare
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Well heck all you need now is Whopper a fast car and a cut of the 700 billion, and counting... Maybe I should open a bank just to file for chapter 11 and have the FDIC buy me out...


Sorry, due to regulations you are not allowed to play in that sandbox.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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These are not children for heaven's sake and you are talking about billions, really trillions once you add it all up, of dollars!

This administration has done everything it can to no longer allow the perception that billions are nothing.....as long as it's not trillions.

Please don't let it be working! These are billions and billions of dollars that could have -- and should have -- remained in the pockets of Americans. Americans that are losing their jobs and houses faster than the government can track!!

This is absolutely abhorrent and should not be tolerated. Period.

Apathy is as good as acceptance.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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Whatever side of the political rift you are on, these figures and statements don't lie. They should be a wake up call for all of you.

The Government (whoever is in control of it) has failed.

And you still watch the news, you still listen when they say "slow recovery...", plenty of people still think the federal government is able to fix it.

I don't know who to feel more bemused at, your government for thinking they could fix it (or faking that they could to rob you some more) or the American people for allowing all of this to happen with very little argument.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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The only way to help an addict that will not admit they have a problem is for an intervention.

It is as simple as that folks.

Wall street is controlling DC.

Wall street has turned into nothing more than a bunch of gambling addicts only much riskier than Vegas.

Why on earth anyone would still have money in a 401k or on the market is beyond me. Short term gain I guess.

A forced Intervention on the Govt. to put back the regulations of Banking and Wall street is the only way to get this fixed.

Everyone in different threads has it right for the most part.
Wether they are speaking of armed Revolution, or voting them out, it's all the same direction.

There is no easy way from here anymore. There is no easy fix.
The stimulus was a joke from the begining as was the TARP funds.
It is time to burn a few houses down so to speak.

The people still have enough left to have the power. If they all pull their money out, and find an alternative way to use it against that system, it would break the grip they have on us.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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I'm not apathetic, I just didn't expect anything different, unlike the millions of people who seem to have been following a different government than I. As for them being children, they are certainly acting like it in this regard.

I know it's billions, in fact, it's trillions, and I fail to see how this administration has done anything more than past administrations to make us understand how much trouble we're in. It seems to be that Obama's America is spending as much, if not more than Bush's America.

If people really understood how much trouble we're in there would be riots, thats why it's in the government's best interest to keep us uninformed.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 12:43 PM
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Finally, someone gets it...



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare


Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 



Well than heavens we did something good with the money!

I got a little of the Captain in me ```\


Well heck all you need now is Whopper a fast car and a cut of the 700 billion, and counting... Maybe I should open a bank just to file for chapter 11 and have the FDIC buy me out...



I think you got a little more than the captain in you!!!........It was a whopper all right!!!! bank bail outs, cash for clunkers.........bend back over, more to come!! Damn the bankers love us!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Is not surprises my friend if you have follow up the job indexes and the latest unemployment statistic you know that is not such thing as stimulus to create jobs.

Remember also that now the government calls rather than creation, preservation of existing jobs, because new ones has not been create in sustainable amounts to make a dent on the statistics.

Service jobs is no the same as permanent stable jobs that offers 40 hours a week and they are not minimum wage

Jobs been created are temporary and hours has been cut, in this nation we have lost most of the permanent middle class jobs created in the last ten years.


What do you mean service jobs are not the same, yada ya... That is, urrr, well not very smart to look at the tip of the spear as a toe nail cutter.

If you look at "recovery.org" you will see plenty of regional contracts that are bid upon in that region. Jobs which do in fact create bosses, employees and payrolls. Yes these jobs are not permanent, but they range from retrofitting bridges, painting landing strips
to maintaining facilities in the national parks, all things that have to be done and cost money. It is logical that many of these people would collect government assistance otherwise for no work, damned either way...

As far as the OP, no surprise there, I'm sure the private sector would treat us better

Pony up the investment bucks if you believe or raise a beer in protest to the alcoholics of the world.

We are boned...



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual

The Government (whoever is in control of it) has failed.



I would only disagree with this part of your statement. I dont think they have failed at all. Seems to me.......everything is working perfectly! They know exactly what they are doing. Americans wont stand up.

I dont know where I heard it, but I heard this lately and found it truthfully shocking........ There has never been a time in history that the majority went against the dictator!

They are robbing us blind. When it fails, we will feed on each other & they will walk away with our money, laughing all the way to a chinese bank!

edit to correct the st... st...stutter.

[edit on 18-10-2009 by liveandletlive]



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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Well I tell you this much, we have all over the county nice expensive signs telling us that a portion of the road you are driving through has been payed by the American stimulus funds, but the thing is that the roads are the same as usual they just put a littler bit of asphalt in half a mile of the road and now the signs look more expensive than the fixed roads

Get my point.



Temporary jobs are not long lasting jobs that will help the nation emerge from a recession just add more burden to the states unemployment lines that if you qualify for unemployment, and boost the government numbers on job creation bringing a false sense of recovery.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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The bailouts and the stimulus was the biggest rape of our treasury ever. Thanks John Gault
Thanks for sticking a gun to the American peoples .s and robbing us blind.



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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so, i wonder how many more jobs out their "Americans wont do"
wanna give some jobs and money back to Americans, stop trading them for votes...
check out some of these #s
www.immigrationcounters.com...



posted on Oct, 18 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Janky Red
 


Well I tell you this much, we have all over the county nice expensive signs telling us that a portion of the road you are driving through has been payed by the American stimulus funds, but the thing is that the roads are the same as usual they just put a littler bit of asphalt in half a mile of the road and now the signs look more expensive than the fixed roads

Get my point.



Temporary jobs are not long lasting jobs that will help the nation emerge from a recession just add more burden to the states unemployment lines that if you qualify for unemployment, and boost the government numbers on job creation bringing a false sense of recovery.


I understand certainly not a permanent fix, however I do not understand how you reckon this will CURRENTLY add to unemployment. I actually think it is a hell of a lot better than straight unemployment if you consider the current state of US infrastructure which is very near failing marks across the board. I am not sure what people really want to be honest, seems damned either which way.



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