reply to post by Jakes51
Obama is working feverishly on sending more troops as an option. 
Obama seeks study on local leaders for troop
decision
President Obama has asked senior officials for a province-by-province analysis of Afghanistan to determine which regions are being managed
effectively by local leaders and which require international help, information that his advisers say will guide his decision on how many additional
U.S. troops to send to the battle
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reply to post by SLAYER69
Thanks for the update. Hmm, I wonder what he is waiting for. To me, it sounds like someone is dragging their feet on something that should be number
one on his agenda. He has troops in harms way, and yet, he needs further analysis to make a decision? He has been in office since last January and
still no objectives? All he has to do is stand back and give his commanders the green-light to do what they need to.
Apparently, he can't even do that, because of the rumblings from General Stanley McChrystal. The President is an enigma, and I just can't figure him
out for the life of me. Asking provincial leaders for analysis, what the heck is that? I thought that is the analysis he gets from his boots on the
ground during his daily intelligence briefings? What the heck is going on at Pennsylvania Ave? Now, that is a conspiracy!
[edit on 31-10-2009 by Jakes51]
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reply to post by Jakes51
President Obama met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff about troop levels in Afghanistan. As David Martin reports, the
military now admits just getting troops there would take a long time.
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reply to post by SLAYER69
Thanks for the continued illumination of such a murky topic. Much gratitude, my friend. Now, after watching that, I am still left shrugging my
shoulders. What the heck is going on? Now, there is even a semblance of admitting to defeat if McChrystal's troops quotas aren't met in 12 months as
highlighted in CBS report? There's a war going on and all we get from the administration, Pentagon, and combat commanders is the same back and forth
that we hear everyday in national politics? I wish I could see what direction they are heading with Afghanistan? Hopefully, they can get something
together soon, before its too late.
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Originally posted by andrewh7
Excellent thread. People used to say that war would never be the same after the media began televising the Vietnam war. They said the public could
not stand to look at it and that future wars would not be fought with such haste. They were wrong. We were shocked and appalled to see it the first
time, but we grew desensitized and apathetic to its horrors. We stopped counting the dead and, with regard to Iraq, we stopped carrying about an
adequate justification for war.
Money is to be made and political points are to be collected by any politician seen strong on "defense." We will eventually accept the idea of
perpetual war and we will sacrifice whole generations to fight in them. Young men and women will die for a cause they do not understand at the
command of men who have never in their lives faced conflict before. These men will order their youth to do something they would never be brave enough
to do on their own. As long as the war carries no personal risk to those who run them, the war will never end.
There will always be another enemy and it's only a matter of time before our ingenuity leads to the creation of new weapon wielded by a man who has
no authority and is responsible to no one but his own conscious. Whether it be a virus or some anti-matter bomb 100 years down the line, rest assured
that we will one day choose an enemy that doesn't care about destroying itself, giving it a significant advantage over those who do. When it
happens, we will certainly not be prepared. If we dodge this bullet, even if only temporarily, it won't be as a result of the good graces of some
divine being. Rather, it will only be due to blind luck.
Bro. I read this post 3 times straightup-conclusion of the 1st time i thought damn that sounded bang on i gotta reread it.2nd time had me awash with
all sorts of emotions.3rd time had me immediately looking to reply post.I simply had to let you know your post is sincerely,to me personally the most
compelling,intelligent & brilliantly worded posts i believe i've ever read in any of the 100s/1000s of threads ive followed during the years i've
been coming here.Couldn't agree with you more. 
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