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Originally posted by Deaf Alien
reply to post by silent thunder
Is compromise possible between militant atheists and religious believers?
Between no evidence and no evidence?
Originally posted by Conclusion
reply to post by sirnex
You are right about God creating evil. Now mankind has a choice. Good or Evil. It is everyone's choice. By man's decisions are we all judged.
If theism is the belief in the existence of God, then a-theism ought to mean "not theism" or "without theism." Actually, there is no notion of "denial" in the origin of the word, and the atheist who denies the existence of God is by far the rarest type of atheist — if he exists at all. Rather, the word atheism means to an atheist "lack of belief in the existence of a God or gods." An atheist is one who does not have a belief in God, or who is without a belief in God. The importance of these distinctions is that one cannot understand what one cannot define accurately. An atheist cannot deny the existence of that which he finds to be without meaning, namely the term God. In order to deny the existence of something, one must know what the term one is denying means.
An atheist is one who does not have a belief in God, or who is without a belief in God. The importance of these distinctions is that one cannot understand what one cannot define accurately.
Thought you might find that interesting since it breaks down, using logic, the etymology of the word atheism.
however it most definitely plays a crucial role in certain social philosophies like Marxism, which we’ve already established.
especially when advocates of this philosophy go on social crusades to change laws, ban certain types of speech and so on.
When that happens its now very much in the social and cultural realm and becomes more involved and complex than “just a belief in no deity’…. So when you say its just a simple belief in no god
I take exception because I see the evidence of atheists imposing their philosophy by attempting to eliminate mine from the cultural arena exactly the same way some believers campaign to have their beliefs represented . That’s my observation –
Then there is the question of Dawkins accusing a person of child abuse who is supposedly told to stone their child by God – and then extrapolating that to an entire group of people – that’s called bigotry
To say that I cannot mix politics with communist atheist’s motivation to murder entire groups of people[even though atheism is used philosophically to justify said crime ie. the gulags of Russia and china] then by the same token and use of your own logic, please do not mix God with politically motivated crimes in which God is invoked to legitimize said crimes – for example – Islam is bad because some Muslims are political extremists who invoke Allah to legitimize their crimes – or Christianity is bad because hundreds of years ago Spain invoked God in their political campaign to unite their country and drive out an infuential class of people ie the Jews of Spain…
Now I’m going to reintroduce the question of DNA – DNA is a code – that is the dictionary definition – a code is different from a naturally occurring patterns like the formation of snowflakes or other non sentient energy combinations-naturally occuring patterns in nature do not require conscious design – However as a code DNA is in fact very much like human language- with syntax – like a computer code instead of binary it has four letters – those letters combine to make words, sentences and then chapters – for example the chromosome could be said to be a chapter…no code has been discovered that does not have a mental process as it origin – a code is a message – in the case of DNA it is a set of instructions to the cells of our bodies – a message – so please – show me a code that has no designer…?I know we wrestled with this before but your rebuttal wasn't much better than my initial argument
Ok these are just food for thought – This is such a great opportunity to converse about things that are seriously interesting to me - more fun than a barrel of designer monkeys Be back later