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Originally posted by Stillalive
haha even if the governent controls the site,they cant stop people from talking and discussing,if they do,well we can just use messener
Originally posted by Stillalive
well yea,i forgot about that, the messengers use as easy ecnryption as md5 or cr4 or something,they probably spy on all of our conversations,even i can probably sniff and decypher conversations. so yea,if they block telephones and net and tv it leaves only mouth to mouth. but that means civil world war lol
Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
reply to post by Death_Kron
Echelon was primarily the realm of the CIA, and they would only be interested in threats against the USA. I just can't see anybody learning much from a R.A.T.S. thread. Perhaps the CIA could get a definitive answer as to whether Bacon wrote Shakespeare or why Bill Gates likes Da Vinci better than Michelangelo? Speaking of paint and Tesla...
Originally posted by fromunclexcommunicate
reply to post by Death_Kron
The fact that the UK is part of Echelon is an important discrimination. In the UK they have the RIP key disclosure which basically states that master keys must be divulged to law enforcement on demand.
In other parts of Europe encryption standards are such that automatic session key cycling might prevent a criminal from knowing what key was used to encrypt incriminating evidence.
In Germany they consider disclosure of IP address ownership to be legal without needing a court order so apparently the server location of any forum could dictate your degree of privacy/security.
news.cnet.com...
[edit on 3-10-2009 by fromunclexcommunicate]
Originally posted by MR BOB
no not at all, in fact if there is something that should not be posted, the owner would basicly hand over control to get rid of everything related to it. ./ allow the monitering of ips.
it you want to be secure 100 percent untracable, use onion routing.
Originally posted by MR BOB
reply to post by Death_Kron
i though it was impossible to trace,
Onion routing has several weaknesses. For one, it does not provide much defense against timing analysis. If an attacker observes a relatively under-loaded onion router, he can link incoming/outgoing messages by observing how close together in time they are received and re-sent.