This is an interestind magick square :

S-A-T-O-R >> SOWER
A-R-E-P-O >> AREPO (? know what it mean ?)
T-E-N-E-T >> Hold (Or CIA big boss name )
O-P-E-R-A >> OPERATE
R-O-T-A-S >> WHEEL

Letters have a numerical correspondance, try to find how...


[Edited on 18-2-2003 by Nans DESMICHELS]

I don't understand what you are saying, getting at, or what this means.

But I wish I did, can you try and rephrase it better? Or maybe just explain the point?

very similar to the number patterns with the 911 fiasco. Must be the work of freemasons. Perhaps you should research some more occult and find the meanings behind symbols. www.google.com

There are good symbols sites, but you'll not find Masonic Symbols in them. There are a few short books that accurately describe some of the symbols, and even those books are poorly accurate. Masonic Symbolism it seems is truly the only secret we have left

Hammerite, just keep in mind, that you don't know the masons as well as you think you do.

Remember two things about Masonry: 1) Superior Masons deliberately lie to their fellow Masons, as those Masons "deserve to be mislead;" 2) Explanations given to 95% of all Masons are wrong. This quote from Masonic author, Carl Claudy sums it all up: "Cut through the outer shell and find a meaning; cut through that meaning and find another; under it, if you dig deep enough, you may find a third, a fourth -- who shall say how many teachings?"

Many who are in Masonry are not aware that they are lied to. Finally, remember Albert Pike's bold assertion in Morals & Dogma, that "Masonry is identical to the ancient Mysteries," which means that all their teachings in all their books are precisely the same as the Ancient, Pagan, Satanic Mysteries.

SO take that to your all powerful LODGE

Didn't we have this discussion last night?

That's a myth, generated by non-masons who don't know what they are talking about.

I could tell you what Carl Claudy meant if you were a Mason

Do note, there is a difference between adding to the original meaning, and lying, nothing said in masonry is a lie, but there are different "types" of meanings in masonry one of which is the brother's individual interpretation...blah blah.

I think you should come to our all powerful LODGE and see the truth, too bad you're a girl hehe.

That doesn't mean I'm for letting women in masonry though BOOOO heh.

Ephesians 5:10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. 13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says: "Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light." 15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

But you're making the assumption that Freemasonry is the "Unfruitful Darkness". Nay it is the cornicopia of light

1 Corinthians 10:19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that you should have fellowship with devils. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lordís table, and of the table of devils. 22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Proverbs 4:14 Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. 15 Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.

Freemasons, and their likes, are all over, doing their secret work of evil. (Please understand that "lower" freemasons may not always know anything about these things. Freemasonry is organised like any undercover operation; the lower levels do not know what the big plan really is, or even who the main leaders really are.)

Originally posted by Hammerite
I think you should come to our all powerful LODGE and see the truth, too bad you're a girl hehe.

That doesn't mean I'm for letting women in masonry though BOOOO heh.

yes I think we already gathered your opinion of women in masonry from my thread on co-masonry

thankfully that decision is not up to you and I am still working on becoming a female mason

LoL the decision isn't up to me Arc? Then who is it up too? There is no partial votes, either everyone agrees or it fails And I'm hardly the minority in wanting to keep Freemasonry a "Brotherhood". Besides it would cost too much to scrub off the "Salve Frater" from the Scottish Rite Temple in Washington DC.

Although, on a side note, I wouldn't mind the free porno as women take their degrees

[Edited on 13-3-2003 by Hammerite]

And Ycon that depends on your definition of "higher-ups". I doubt SINCERELY that 1 degree can mean the difference between "Good and Evil". After all, don't all you Mason haters think that Freemasonry is supposed to slowly reveal to you over the 30 degrees in the SR that Satan is God or some crap like that?

Well since most NO ONE remembers the 30 degrees anyways, since they basically just throw them at you left and right, it really doesn't matter.

The power in Masonry begins and ends with the Master of the lodge. Or rather the Grand Lodge

Beyond that it's just more history, and more money, more social functions. Masonry, is masonry and once you are a Master Mason you are free to do anything in Masonry.

And what DEGREE have you excelled in???

When you understand that almost all the real leaders of this earth are of the Masonic people, then you understand that they in part worship Allah through the Shriners of the Masons. The high leaders of the New World Order are of the Illuminati, Masonic, Satanists. Many of them are of the human blood drinking cult such as the Bush's belong to. Others of them in the high places in the congress and senate and also the Big Banksters of this earth all belong to this Masonic Illuminati New World Order of Satanists, workers of iniquity. They are following the same path and direction of Adolph Hitler and Stalin and Chairman Mau of China.

The real freedom is being taken from all over all this earth even in America and of Europe under this new TERRORIST LAW that Bush Forced upon the American people. They were FORCED to pass it without being ABLE to READ it before they passed it. AND THE SAME IN EUROPE.

Darkness falls upon all over this earth, for it is written in His Word of Prophecy. The whole earth will be led to great war. Led by the New World Order and their leader the Antichrist or the son of Perdition from the bottomless pit as written Revelation 13:11-18 + 17:8-11 and 2Thesselonians 2:9-12.

The Vatican will have a new head soon and he will be the False Prophet to Full Fill 2 Thessolonians 2:9-12 + Revelation 13:13-18 + 17:18 the city Rome.

The New World Order plan given by their Illuminati directors is to eliminate over two thirds of this earth's population. So through their evil way of their evil god Lucifer, who comes only to steal, kill, and destroy, they are creating many things to kill. They create viruses like AIDS and soon to release much more deadly man made plagues that will run rampant across this earth. The other is wars they create all over this earth and more worse to come as to be used to fulfill their plan of eliminating up to 90% of the earth's population.

They are going to do this under such nice looking smiling world leaders as we see at the Whitehouse or at the UN buildings. They make themselves as written II Corinthians 11:15 godless leaders or some profess to be god people. But by their fruits you know they are not. In most part, they are habitual liars after their father of lies, Lucifer, the devil.

Originally posted by Hammerite
Although, on a side note, I wouldn't mind the free porno as women take their degrees

please note that I have a sense of humour, but that comment was particularly offensive. You may well be a Mason, but your general style of posting and method with dealing with anyone who disagrees with you, compares most unfavourably with any Mason I have ever known and respected. They were all gentlemen in the finest sense of the word!

It is a shame that you do not seem to have taken the masonic values of love, respect and gnosis to heart. As a woman and a non-mason even I appear to have a greater grasp of those principals than you

Ycon I am having great difficulties following your arguments that masonry is the big evil. You have quoted a lot of scripture and linked paganism with satanism, the idea of which would be laughable to many wiccans, druids and pagans both today and over the course of history.

As a note on AIDS, in the majority it is developed by homosexuals, drug addicts and prostitutes. All groups that according to some 'christian' sources God is supposed to hate. I have heard AIDS referred to as a punishment from God before now. Why would the NWO and all their nasty satanist followers, spread a disease that effectively does the work of God and not the antichrist?

" Why would the NWO and all their nasty satanist followers, spread a disease that effectively does the work of God and not the antichrist?" well... It could be possible that they just want the non-superior-and-the-lower-leveled-satanic-worshipers to all die or whatever so they could all go to hellÖ they tempt you and lie to you so they can trick you on to the road to hell. they don't care what happens to the "average" ppl cuz it's really not all that important to them. u know what i mean.

julia are you implying that drug addicts, prostitutes, homosexual people and those who get aids through blood transfusions and sheer bad luck are in fact all low level satanists?

Although, on a side note, I wouldn't mind the free porno as women take their degrees

Truly tasteless comment. That in a nutshell is enough for you to be stripped of your garb and bannished from your lodge.

Grow up,