Everything is OK

Great video, and great quotes.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Listen dude. Stop arguing with other people. He only singled out Capitalism because he lives in a Capitalist society, and he needs THOSE people to stop fear mongering about COMMIES and start considering that maybe their system is just as bad. It's all the same evil.

All forms of handing power to anyone cause strife, pain, fear, and violence. Capitalism screws people over at least as much as Communism does.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by Discordian Queen]

Originally posted by sisgood

We need people out on the streets doing this every day!

What!? OH you mean people being individuals? Well, we cant have that. Go back to your drone stations robots.

Originally posted by Discordian Queen
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Listen dude. Stop arguing with other people. He only singled out Capitalism because he lives in a Capitalist society, and he needs THOSE people to stop fear mongering about COMMIES and start considering that maybe their system is just as bad. It's all the same evil.

All forms of handing power to anyone cause strife, pain, fear, and violence. Capitalism screws people over at least as much as Communism does.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by Discordian Queen]

Congrats on showing your ignorance on captialism. Capitalism doesn't force people to be evil. Evil people force others to do evil things. Why would you blame people starving in China with the small businesses in America trying to earn a living? Why would you lump those entrepreneurs in with the dictators and tyrants that starve, kill, abuse and offer no freedoms to their citizens? What kind of a moron believes in things like that? Capitalism only became a bad word when the sheeple bought into "hope", "change" and "yes we can".

I agree the markets (and capitalism) needed to be better regulated but socialism isn't the answer, neither is communism (still learning more about that) or a monarchy. BHO is handing out money that he doesn't have and giving it to those that never tried to make any on their own. That doesn't make people want to work harder, to make themselves smarter or to learn more about their profession. It makes them rely more on the government. Who doesn't get that? Probably the same people that are looking for a way to get their BHO stickers off their prius....

Yeah, keep making sure that you depend more and more on the same government that you talk about hating their powers. Idiots... Make up your mind. Anarchy isn't going to solve your problems. Fix the issues in capitalism (the same capitalism that has made the US so strong for so long), not invent or adapt a less reliable, functionable system. Rookies..

Good job!
Thanks for posting these vids...
I have in mind to do something like that as well in my city! lol

This is absolute genius! we need people to do this in every city in the world and have people with them handing out DVDs of films like zeitgeist and wakeup call.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by silent thunder

 

Although there are some things which these guys are saying that are true, why do they have to blame "Capitalism" for the Chinese people being oppressed, and having to work below minimum wage because of true SOCIALISM, aka COMMUNISM?...

If they want to blame a system for what some people are suffering, they should be blaming the true Socialist systems which have oppressed people, and continue to oppress them...

In the U.S., and most of the first world countries true SOCIALISM is being implemented, and SOCIALIST dictatorships are being formed.

Blame true SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM, and not Capitalism...

Are you willfully ignorant or just confused

If we had true socialism(not 'national socialism' aka 'fascism' aka 'far-right of the political spectrum') we would have governments that actually cared for the people's welfare, not people standing ABOVE THE LAW unaccountable to all but the fellow elite, etc.

How can bailing out huge private multi-national conglomerate corporations, including the most elite of all(the illuminati banking cartel), be considered "socialism"? Is that the "socialism" they had in russia, china, cuba, north korea? Please stop, this is a direct insult to anyone with half-a-brain....

Originally posted by Roadblockx
Congrats on showing your ignorance on captialism. Capitalism doesn't force people to be evil.

Unfettered capitalism encourages people to be greedy, which can be equated to evil. In reality the western world is way beyond that! They have allowed secret socities and banking cartels to completly hijack *free enterprise* and turn us into oligarchy slaves. Its almost like being a serf back in the middle ages and the worst part is people don't even realise it.

Originally posted by Roadblockx
Evil people force others to do evil things. Why would you blame people starving in China with the small businesses in America trying to earn a living?

If people starve in china it is because of over-population.

Originally posted by Roadblockx
I agree the markets (and capitalism) needed to be better regulated

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Too late for that now!

Originally posted by Roadblockx
but socialism isn't the answer, neither is communism (still learning more about that) or a monarchy. BHO is handing out money that he doesn't have and giving it to those that never tried to make any on their own. That doesn't make people want to work harder, to make themselves smarter or to learn more about their profession. It makes them rely more on the government. Who doesn't get that? Probably the same people that are looking for a way to get their BHO stickers off their prius....

Your absolutely right!

He should give it all the bankers, so they don't have to work so hard IN RIPPING US OFF! Then everyone who thought ultra-capitalism(which some people are still naive enough to think is socialism) was such a dandy idea will "suddenly" and "mysteriously" wake up ONLY AFTER getting layed off. As a result many of these hardcore fools will have NO HEALTH INSURANCE because they can't afford to buy their own and because they were dumb enough to block national healthcare. They will THEN realise it was all an a AMA & Insurance company(s) ploy to keep prices and profits high.

Good luck telling your pathetic story at the nearest salvation army branch. Perhaps they will pitty you enough to keep you alive

Originally posted by Roadblockx
Yeah, keep making sure that you depend more and more on the same government that you talk about hating their powers. Idiots... Make up your mind. Anarchy isn't going to solve your problems. Fix the issues in capitalism (the same capitalism that has made the US so strong for so long), not invent or adapt a less reliable, functionable system. Rookies..

I suppose JFK tried and as a result he got killed! Why bother trying to fix anything if your only gonna get called a bunch of names and eventually a bullet in the head?

And all of this from people who think they are real patriots

Brilliant video, the anti capitalist spin almost turned me off but I kept watching and I have to say brilliant! Aside from his misunderstanding of the difference between capitalism and what we have these guys are brilliant, and inspiring. I'd love to do the same thing but I'm not as fast on my feet as these guys. We need to see more and more of this!

Beautiful!!! These guys are real heroes!!! I love it! We need more of this kind of action.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Roadblockx
Congrats on showing your ignorance on captialism. Capitalism doesn't force people to be evil.

Unfettered capitalism encourages people to be greedy, which can be equated to evil. In reality the western world is way beyond that!

Duh - ask an American "Should prisoners earn their keep? Or should the tax payer keep them in cuontry club accomodations?"

And theysay "YES. Let the jerks work."

Make that a chinese prisoner and they sheepishlt say - "But that is slavery."

AHAHA teh girl smiling made me smile... best video of the day. Those cops were very polite also.

In a 3rd world country that guy would be probably ass kicked.

Originally posted by Roadblockx
Capitalism doesn't force people to be evil.

What do you call it when you are a company who wants to grow and you need to cut all unnecessary costs? You hire people at really low wages and/or put production in China. You dump crap in the sea because its costs money to actually take care of it. You screw people over to gain a few points on the stock market.

Thats not evil? I think it is. I think its a system that encourages stepping on and abusing people to get ahead. To get more money. Greed. Power. Ego. Selfishness.

Whats your view on this, if you dont think its evil?


[edit on 30-9-2009 by Copernicus]

AMAZING! Thanks for posting that. That made my day

I've seen it over a couple of times now - its brilliance is striking...
I suggest you watch some of of their other recordings as well: www.youtube.com...
The 'royal edition' for example is a winner too

Amazing, more people need to do exactly this!

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by silent thunder

 

Although there are some things which these guys are saying that are true, why do they have to blame "Capitalism" for the Chinese people being oppressed, and having to work below minimum wage because of true SOCIALISM, aka COMMUNISM?...

If they want to blame a system for what some people are suffering, they should be blaming the true Socialist systems which have oppressed people, and continue to oppress them...

In the U.S., and most of the first world countries true SOCIALISM is being implemented, and SOCIALIST dictatorships are being formed.

Blame true SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM, and not Capitalism...

whilst there's much to be said of the 'socialist' countries of the world (although you'll find almost no countries in recent history which have even met the description of socialism or anything even remotely near to communism which marx would have found acceptable), there is a natural link between capitalism and exploitation which is so strong it can't be denied.

this is not a post to tell you socialism or communism are superior (regardless of what i think on if that's true) it's simply that mccarthyism, amongst other things, in america has created a perception that socialism/communism = bad and capitalism = freedom/good/rich.

it's very frustrating to see a total misunderstanding of the true meanings and qualities of the systems and ironically it's a direct result of propaganda that so many people (in particular americans) have little or no real understanding of the implications of the systems. capitalism, socialism and communism are all extremely complicated and i must also add that socialism and communism are not the same thing. communism is as big a step from socialism as socialism is from capitalism. socialism is very much the middleground.

i think you've been on too much ats if you think in most of the firstworld countries socialism dictatorships are being formed. most european countries are more socialist than america and yet almost all of them have a greater level of democracy than america. in fact you'll find a lot of eu countries like the uk which have democratically voted in parties offering greater socialist policies. there is also a difference between having some socialist policies or things like nationalising banks and actually being a socialist country. if having a few socialist policies makes your country socialist then you've been that for many, many decades. you might not have noticed free basic schools, libraries, a police force, fire brigade etc. are all totally socialist policies.

socialism and communism are just systems like capitalism which have no inherent link with democracy, a lack of democracy, dictators or anything. it's been the case throughout history that many dictators have created systems which have some socialist policies and claimed to be communist/socialist (ussr is the ultimate example) in order to gain the support of their population whilst never truly being socialist countries in the first place. it says enough that marx's work on communism was burned and rewritten changing many key aspects in order to make stalin's russia fit the bill. the truth is marx would turn in his grave to see 'socialist' countries like russia or china be paraded as examples of his ideas. they simply aren't reflective at all. it is ironic that marx's ideas behind communism are to create the most freedom and happiness for the whole population whilst ending wage slavery, alienation and exploitation which capitalism encourages. it's pretty tragic that all his work is now reduced to mccarthyist use of it as a buzz word without any close understanding of the terms at all. if ever propaganda was evident in american society it is that they can't even hear 'socialism' without shuddering in disgust without even a real understanding of what it is

I've recommended this book here before in a comment to another thread, but due to a number of comments on this thread, I believe a number of participants here would get a lot out of it:

mary_elizabeth_croft.pdf

If we are going to improve our lot, we're going to have to start opening our hearts. Money is madness. It doesn't change your value to humanity if you're rich or poor, you are as important and as deserving of love from birth to death as every other person in this world.
The quest to became wealthy is reckless, there are more important things to be devoting energy to. We don't need to reach out to connect, we are already connected. Be aware, you are connected to everyone.

Wrong thread..

[edit on 1/10/2009 by Recouper]

I believe these are the true brave prophets of our century