Originally posted by Mak Manto
FactCheck is stating that Obama receiving the Fulbright Scholarship is a lie.

And God help you if you bring up the Obama/Annenberg Foundation association conspiracy theory...

Well then, may God help me. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Obama and Ayers headed, was sponsored by teh Annenberg Foundation, which is the sponsor of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, which is the director of Factcheck.org. Therefore, I tend to reject anything from said website in much the same way as I would reject an egg from a farm known to have a salmonella outbreak.

How could I see it coming from so far away...?

And that's rich, saying that FactCheck is lying to us.

Originally posted by Mak Manto
And that's rich, saying that FactCheck is lying to us.

I wasn't saying that factcheck is "lying to us." I said I do not trust factcheck. I don't know if they're lying. The complete and total truth of the matter is that without a legally and publically verified live birth certificate, NOBODY outside of a select few around Obama can say they know without any doubt that he was born in Hawaii.

But it's OK, we all understand your point of view... I mean, c'mon, the site has the name "Fact Check" it's right there in their name: "FACT", so it simply MUST be true, right?

Actually, they've shown Obama's short form birth certificate off the internet. I can show you evidence of it being shown offline.

Originally posted by Mak Manto
Actually, they've shown Obama's short form birth certificate off the internet. I can show you evidence of it being shown offline.

Are you refering to the reproduction of a birth certificate that was shown some months back?

No, I actually mean the real birth certificate.

The birth certificate that was shown online by Obama's campaign, I have proof of it being shown offline.

Do you want to see it?

Originally posted by Mak Manto
No, I actually mean the real birth certificate.

The birth certificate that was shown online by Obama's campaign, I have proof of it being shown offline.

Do you want to see it?

By all means. Although the one that the campaign showed online was the one I referred to as the reproduction.