ACORN's Co-Founder Wade Rathke Speaks Out (Video), page 1

ACORN's Co-Founder Wade Rathke Speaks Out (Video), page 1

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Topic started on 19-9-2009 @ 04:35 AM by DrMattMaddix

Wade spoke with Megyn Kelly of FoxNews...

Here's the video...

(The sound cuts out near the end and no info on the rest of the interview yet)

(click to open player in new window)

I know what I'm thinking... What say you?

Edit to add This link (with article and A/V with sync issues.)

The interview is just a small part of an over three-hour interview she did with Rathke that will air as part of a Fox News documentary that will air next week on the Fox News Channel. Kelly said "you don't want to miss this," referring to the documentary to air next week.

[edit on 9·19·09 by DrMattMaddix]

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 01:20 PM by Benevolent Heretic

I'm not defending the guy, but what he says in this short clip makes sense. In ANY organization or group, whether it be teachers, cops, priests or bus drivers, and ESPECIALLY someone who is involved in politics, there are going to be people whose morals allow them to cheat, commit crimes or abuse the system or other people. I'm not making excuses for it, but since when is 100% of ANY organization or group above reproach?

I will have to see the interview to decide what I think.

[edit on 19-9-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 04:28 PM by RoofMonkey

I've already decided. This guy, and his brother, are both corrupt.

His socialist democrat contacts, corrupt.

His liberal republican contacts, corrupt.

Two separate "community" oriented organizations in this town (Not necessarily ACORN related) have been disbanded and the some of the staff prosecuted by State LE in the last three years.

[rant]
Even State employed officers are not without corruption. On a door in a parole office I was doing IT work in, I spotted a sign admonishing the staff from becoming too close to their cases. (two parole officers had been indicted in the last month or so for taking up illegal activities)
[/rant]

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 05:40 PM by Sestias

There's no excuse for what Acorn has done in a number of instances. They deserve to be prosecuted. They may still deserve to exist, though they need to clean house.

There is no concrete evidence that implicates Rathke, however. Guilt by association is faulty logic.

But to connect this to Barack Obama in any way is like blaming Ronald Reagan (a former movie star) for every bad movie ever made.

[edit on 19-9-2009 by Sestias]

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 07:11 PM by RoofMonkey

Originally posted by Sestias

But to connect this to Barack Obama in any way is like blaming Ronald Reagan (a former movie star) for every bad movie ever made.

You are correct... except he has already connected himself to ACORN on multiple occasions. Even reveled in it.

As with regards to Rathke, I look at it from a chain of command point of view. No matter what happens, ultimate responsibility resides with the HMFIC. That's why a CO of a ship gets investigated or removed from command should his bridge crew screw up and run it aground. Ultimately, he's responsible.

No excuses.

No crying.

No whining.

To do less is morally corrupt.

[edit on 19-9-2009 by RoofMonkey]

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 07:58 PM by DrMattMaddix

Originally posted by RoofMonkey

As with regards to Rathke, I look at it from a chain of command point of view. No matter what happens, ultimate responsibility resides with the HMFIC. That's why a CO of a ship gets investigated or removed from command should his bridge crew screw up and run it aground. Ultimately, he's responsible.

No excuses.

No crying.

No whining.

To do less is morally corrupt.

Exactly, It parallels something as basic as a family unit. The Leader is the one that sets the tone.

For those yet to be fathers'/husbands' as you lead so your family follows. It's not always the case, there are some bad family heads, and great honest kids emerge from those families. Those are the exceptions. The converse is true as well... sometimes there's nothing that you can do for the followers.
Fortunately, those are the exceptions.

It's my opinion that leadership has everything to do with ACORN's (and governments) problems.

The court system turns a blind eye to the 'leadership' influence as it probably should... The fact that Dale Rathke mislead many in the organization and was later discovered sets a bad example.

Like giving your kids a pass. When my former step son was caught spray painting graffiti on a garage door ... the cops recognized him when they showed up when we reported a bike stolen...
We didn't cover it up. I told the cops that I would handle it and next day we went to the garage door and he removed all of the graffiti even some that others had done. No passes.

It has everything to do with appropriate leadership. Whether it's family or corporate. (Or non-profit.) =)

ALSO: where were Rathke's before they started loosing funding??? That is the most important question.

He shows up for interviews only after they are removing funding. Shouldn't he have lawyers filing claims of no wrong doing?

Smells like damage control extreme. Follow the money. Lead with ethics and conscience. (Not fear and guilt.)

reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 09:43 PM by J-in-TX

Mr. Rathke said, "Why don't we have automatic voter registration? Why do we have a system that forces organizations like ACORN to go out and raise all this money in order to register voters?"

Ok just exactly how are organizations like this "forced" to go out and register voters. I don't see any way that they are "forced" to to this.

For one thing, no one is required to vote. If a person wants to vote then they get themselves registered. It's not hard. Just fill out a form. Pretty much every government building will have the form.

I do not like my tax dollars being used to support programs like this. It is absurd. There is no need for this at all.

The sad thing is that this guy really believes that he is "forced" to get people registered and he will continue to waste our tax dollars on it. He'll just use a different organization other than ACORN.

reply posted on 20-9-2009 @ 01:05 AM by RoofMonkey

Originally posted by J-in-TX
Mr. Rathke said, "Why don't we have automatic voter registration? Why do we have a system that forces organizations like ACORN to go out and raise all this money in order to register voters?"

Because we are a Representative Republic, not a Democracy. Since the days of Plato it has been known that the most unstable form of government is a pure democracy. In a democracy, it is too easy for a leader to stir up the emotions of the people with promises and lies and form a tyranny from his populism.

Go read Plato's Republic or a good set of Cliff Notes on the topic.

reply posted on 20-9-2009 @ 01:34 AM by sdcigarpig

Wade and Dale Rathke are corrupt. So it is not so unbelievable that any organization that they are involved in would be equally corrupt or show a lack of morals. If you consider the tactics that they use to gather money from businesses and other organizations, and to the coverup of embezzlement, who knows what other crimes they may have committed in the process.
I will be watching the interview and taking notes.

reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 10:24 PM by sdcigarpig

I just watched the interview. My thoughts, well lets just say there is a song from the musical, "Into the Woods." I believe it went: But it isn't my fault.... After watching it that is pretty much what the entire ACORN group is saying, it isn't my fault. Not one has stated, the buck stops here, or takes responsiblity for any actions present or past. And that is what the real shame of it all.

reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 12:40 PM by centurion1211

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm not defending the guy, but what he says in this short clip makes sense. In ANY organization or group, whether it be teachers, cops, priests or bus drivers, and ESPECIALLY someone who is involved in politics, there are going to be people whose morals allow them to cheat, commit crimes or abuse the system or other people. I'm not making excuses for it, but since when is 100% of ANY organization or group above reproach?

Makes sense?

See, BH, this is how you could get on the "list". You are actually using the "well, the other guys do it too" logic to defend an organization that is indefensible. Another example of defending liberalism and its minions at all costs, whether it actually makes sense to do so, or not.

I will have to see the interview to decide what I think.

[edit on 19-9-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

No, it is obvious that you've already decided ...

[edit on 10/4/2009 by centurion1211]

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