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reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 12:50 AM by SheaWolf
reply to post by lernmore



Outstanding!! Our tv isn't connected to the MSM, we use vcr and dvd only. This is because we receive such low quality reception of only 3 channels, no satellite and it will be "never" before cable comes this far into the woods. Wouldn't pay for the mess anyway. LOL So great idea for the hidden reaches Thank ye! S & F

See ya.
Shea

Free internet this way would be cool...still only have dial-up here but better than nothing


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 01:50 AM by lernmore
Satellites that carry broadcasting signals are generally in a geostationary orbit above the earths equator at 0deg. If you're in the northern hemisphere, when you first adjust your dish, you'll use your southern most satellite relative to your longitude as it will be highest on the “arc” . When your in the southern hemisphere, you'll use the satellite that's located closest to your due north.

Just like everything else, (USB etc) standards have been created to make things just as easy as possible.
In the case of motorized satellite alignment, it's called USALS (Universal Satellites Automatic Location System)

Here are a few tips that may come in handy when setting up your dish, and a short 10 min video I found that will help you visualize what I'm talking about. This setup looks very much like mine.

www.youtube.com...

Obviously, along with your new satellite dish and motor, you're going to need a way to mount it. You can either permanently install a 1-3/4 “ - 2” pole at least 4' long (depending on your view of the southern/northern horizon)into concrete, or you can do what I do and use an umbrella stand. The most critical thing is to make sure it's perfectly plumb, so check it with a level.

Once you have your dish/motor assembled, make sure that your motor is set to 0deg, and that the whole thing is perfectly straight using your eyes. Make sure the dish looks like it's 90 deg from the motor when it's mounted on the shaft. Most setups will have bolt holes and through bolts to make sure this is the case.

Then, using the U bolts, mount the motor/dish onto the pole, but leave the bolts loose enough so that you can adjust it from side to side. If you're in the northern hemisphere, you'll want the whole assembly facing due south when the motor is at 0 deg.

Once your motor is mounted, you're going to want to adjust it for up/down according to your latitude. Normally, this will be marked in degrees on the sliding swivel between the motor and the pole. Usually this will be close enough to get a signal and can be adjusted for quality later.

Now you're going to need to know your longitude and get out your compass. Depending on where you are, you're going to have to take into account Magnetic Variation. Ideally, you will want your motor and dish facing exactly south (if you're in the northern hemisphere) when the motor is at 0 degrees. The reason for this is because your dish won't turn simply left or right, but will cover the sky from east to west in an arc, with the dish aiming the highest in the sky when it's due S.

Here's a map of the magnetic variation in North America.
lib.store.yahoo.net...

For instance, if you're in Ohio, you'll want to add 6 degrees, and you'll want your dish facing to the point on your compass that reads 180+6, or 186 degrees (with the motor at 0 deg). If you're in , say, Reno, you'll want to subtract 15 degrees etc. Pretty simple really.

Next, you'll want to get your receiver and a TV.

What I like to do is bring the receiver and a small TV right out near the dish, using a short length coax cable, for the process of getting it adjusted.

Obviously, you'll have to refer to your receiver's manual to become familiar with the user interface, but here are the general things you'll need to do.

Use www.lyngsat.com... to determine which satellite is closest to your due south that is broadcasting a KU band signal.

Program your latitude and longitude into your receiver through the user interface.
(note, since receivers will differ on how to do this, I'll give you a quick example of how to do it with a Pansat3500, as it can be a bit hard to find without being familiar with your box)

For my particular receiver, I have to choose “Installation”
then “Antenna Setup”
Choose your southern most KU band satellite from the left pane, then scroll down to “Positioner Setting”


(note, G25 isn't my southern most sat, just using a pic from the one I'm watchin)

Hit the left arrow until it says “USALS”
Then hit the enter button again and it will bring up the box where I can put in my latitude and longitude.

Usually this only has to be done once, and not for every satellite.

The reason I added this little walk-through, is that it can be a bit confusing to find... it is on the Pansat anyway. Again refer to your use manual for the details.

In the pictures above, you'll notice I have my LNB set to standard, and the LNB local freq sets to 10750 by default. If I had “Dish-Pro” or another LNB selected it would automatically choose 11250 for a local freq.

In the section next to TP, you'll notice mine says [1]12152 H 20.000, that's the transponder it's seeing on satellite G25. “Level” indicates the connection between my box and the LNB, and “Quality” indicates the signal It's seeing from the satellite.

Most receivers ship with known transponders setup for getting a signal from the satellites they come pre-programmed with, but I've found out that it isn't always the case. But don't fear, because once you have it locked in, you can do a blind scan and it will see any that are currently transmitting and they will be added to the list on your box. It's just finding that initial transponder while you're setting it up the first time that can be iffy.

Your receiver and motor should come with complete instructions , and you probably won't even need to refer to this.

Anyway, this is getting long-winded, but if you have any questions...feel free to ask.

Peace



reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 01:09 PM by remymartin
Originally posted by venividivici
stupid question from a newbie.

Why are you limited to 50 sats?

www.gosatellite.com...;jsessionid=0a01034d1f4335bc2998c2cc48978b95b0a76705db2e.e3eSbNmTb3mTe34Pa38Ta38Qc3r0< br /> Another popular choice is a motorized FTA satellite system. The difference here is you add a self-powered motor to the satellite dish and now you have access to all 50+ satellites from east to west in the southern sky. This is for the true hobbyist who wants to have maximum TV. The motorized satellite package is a little more challenging to install as it takes more accuracy to align the dish.


...and why are the southern sats the only ones available? Arent' there sats flying all over the globe north, east, sount and west??




Its all about satellite footprints, where they aim there beams at.
Here is a site that shows all the footprints for different satelltieswww.satbeams.com...


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 02:35 PM by lernmore
I sure would like to have something like that.

Unfortunately I can’t even figure out the basic stuff

(Magnetic Variation, which satellite is closest to my due south,
which dish should I get, which receiver and where should I get all this stuff)


Don't be so hard on yourself, it's really not that hard to do. If I can figure it out, you can.

You can use a compass right? All magnetic variation means is that, depending on your location, your true South won't be exactly 180 degrees. Just refer to the map above (or Google one for your area) to add or subtract a couple degrees.

Finding your latitude and longitude is a no-brainer on the internet. If your longitude is 119.4, how hard can it be to look at a list and realize that the satellite at 119 degrees is your southern most satellite?

Does anyone know a company that can hook me up with such an installation?


Using a phone book, or search engine for “Satellite Sales and service XXXXX (your zip-code) is as simple as finding your local bakery.

Local “Mom and Pop” type outfits are all over the place, and most have installers that would be more than glad to set it up for you. Just don't expect “Dish Network” or “Direct TV” sales to be very helpful, as they want you to subscribe to their “service”, and will do their best to talk you into singing up.

As an aside, this thread wasn't meant to “boycott” those subscription services. If you want HBO, Showtime, and regular programming, by all means get a subscription. Many people have both.

I sounds straight forward. get a dish, receiver, motor and line it up due south. yeah right


It took me all of about 10 minutes to set my dish up last time I moved, don't let the fear of the unknown dictate your ability to learn. Like you, when I first tried it ten years ago I felt the same way. Now it's no big deal at all, and is one of the coolest hobbies I've ever had...countless hours of enjoyment with no monthly fee.

Question I see the Fox channels on the list but are they the english ones or are most of these channels non english language feed?


If you look at the lyngsat.com link in my previous post, then click on satellite Galaxy 16 (99W), you'll notice that it lists all the known transponders that carry “feeds”. These are in English, and are the same exact footage you'll see being broadcast when watching your local news, only you get to watch the reporters swear and pick their noses while waiting for their live shot.

Again, it's the same footage of that car chase you get to see the 2 minute clip of when it ends, but you can watch it live for 45 minutes if you want. It's like you're riding along in the helicopter.


Peace


[edit on 14-9-2009 by lernmore]


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 03:39 PM by venividivici
reply to post by lernmore



thanks lernmore

are you in satellite sales

you should be

you sold me
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