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Arguments planned Jan. 11 for challenge to eligibility

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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Arguments planned Jan. 11 for challenge to eligibility


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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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According to another article I will add, the legal urgency of this case is real - and helps explain why an illegal/illegitimate president is in a rush to steal the remaining freedoms of Americans. This is not to say we have a 'Democrat-only' conspiracy. Clearly, a major section of both parties are in on the usurpation of American's freedoms as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution:
www.wnd.com...

Panic in D.C.? Justice urges birth suit tossed

Late motion filed by feds as case ready for hearing


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Posted: September 07, 2009
10:54 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily




The U.S. Justice Department is urging a federal judge in California
to dismiss a lawsuit challenging the constitutional eligibility of
Barack Obama to hold the office of president.

The highly anticipated hearing tomorrow morning before Judge David
Carter features attorney Orly Taitz and numerous plaintiffs, as well
as a document that one person has sworn is the original birth
certificate of Obama from Kenya - not Hawaii, where the
administration maintains Obama was born.

In a motion filed Friday in Santa Ana, Calif., attorneys for the
government did not directly address the merits of Taitz's claims, but
instead focused their efforts on technical procedures, suggesting the
matter can't be decided in court and that the dozens of plaintiffs
cannot demonstrate they have been injured by having Obama in the Oval
Office.


"It is clear, from the text of the Constitution, and the relevant
statutory law implementing the Constitution's textual commitments,
that challenges to the qualifications of a candidate for president
can, in the first instance, be presented to the voting public before
the election, and, once the election is over, can be raised as
objections as the electoral votes are counted in the Congress," wrote
Assistant U.S. Attorneys Roger West and David DeJute. "Therefore,
challenges such as those purportedly raised in this case are
committed, under the Constitution, to the electors, and to the
Legislative branch."

The suit alleges Obama is actually a citizen of Indonesia and
"possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the
president of the United States of America and the commander-in-chief."

Among the plaintiffs are former ambassador and presidential candidate
Alan Keyes and longshot vice-presidential candidate Gail Lightfoot,
both of whom ran in 2008.

Justice officials say because neither had a mathematical chance at
winning, they were not directly harmed by the election of Obama.

According to the motion, "The [suit] does not allege, nor could it
allege, that any of these plaintiffs were even on the ballot in
enough states in the year 2008 to gain the requisite 270 electoral
votes to win the presidential election."

As WND reported over the holiday weekend, Lucas Smith, the man who
tried to sell an alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate on
eBay, filed court papers insisting - under threat of perjury - that
the Obama birth certificate in his possession is the genuine article.

Taitz posted on her blog Smith's declaration, which claims he
obtained the alleged birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in
Mombasa, Kenya, and insists it's real.

"The true and correct photocopy of the birth certificate obtained is
attached to this affidavit as Exhibit A," the declaration reads. "I
declare, certify, verify, state and affirm under penalty of perjury
under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing
statements of fact and descriptions of circumstances and events are
true and correct."

Smith's affidavit, which includes a copy of the certificate, has been
filed with Judge David Carter of the U.S. District Court for the
Central District of California. Carter is scheduled to preside over a
hearing on the case on Sept. 8.

Taitz told WND she believes the swiftly approaching court date
prompted Smith into action:

"He has been in touch with me for quite a while, and he emailed me
the document with his signature," Taitz said. "I think he was trying
to figure out the most expedient way to bring his message public, and
maybe he felt that because I have a hearing coming, that would be the
most expedient way."

Taitz hopes the court will order expedited discovery, a ruling that
would open many of Obama's currently sealed documents, including his
college records and Hawaiian long-form birth certificate, to court
scrutiny.

"We'll see what happens on Tuesday. If Judge Carter has the guts, we
may move very fast," Taitz told WND. "If expedited discovery is
ordered, I'll be dashing to Occidental College and then be on a
flight to Hawaii."

In his filing, Smith declares that he traveled to Kenya in February
and paid off a military officer in order to obtain a copy of the
birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in Mombasa. The
declaration also states that the hospital administrator signed and
sealed the copy, which indicates Obama's birth in Africa on Aug. 4,
1961, at 7:24 p.m.

As WND reported, Smith released a video of the document he claims is
a copy of Obama's hospital birth record, though an investigation by
Jerome Corsi maintains the document is a forgery.

WND first reported earlier this year when Lucas Smith, a former
resident of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and known by the eBay handle
"colmado_naranja," claimed to have a document proving Obama's birth
in Mombasa, Kenya.

After promising to reveal the document to WND, Smith then dropped
communications with a team of people offering to help him verify the
document, only fueling the belief the sale - and therefore the
alleged document - was a scam.

WND followed Smith's ongoing saga as "colmado_naranja" as he
attempted several times to sell the document, or photos and stories
surrounding it, on eBay, only to have the auctions repeatedly removed
by site administrators.

WND also launched an investigation into "colmado_naranja," which led
through several online aliases and reported collaborators, including
Dawnella Wilson, "InspectorSmith" and, eventually, Lucas Smith.

Smith, whose background includes a lengthy criminal record and a
reported attempt to sell his kidney to a man in need of organ
transplant, nonetheless insists that his motives are above board,
even if his past looks dubious.

"I do have a background. I've made mistakes in my life," Smith told
WND in an e-mail. "It took a guy like me to go and get tangible proof
about Obama. I don't mind breaking a few laws or policies here and
there. I don't mind paying the military in foreign countries to look
the other way ... The military [in Africa] will grant you access to
anything for just a few dollars. People are starving. So yes, it
takes a guy like me to get things done once in a while."

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posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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Jesus... this is ridiculous...

I'm starting to believe that WND is a front to discredit all right wing ideas...



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
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Jesus... this is ridiculous...

I'm starting to believe that WND is a front to discredit all right wing ideas...



If you are a Right Wing person and wish to be taken seriously, ignoring WorldNetDaily is a great start.

And on topic: I doubt anything will come of this but I will be keeping my eye on it. But as I recall they already attempted this once and it came to nothing. I think the same thing is happening now, and this will just fizzle out of the news soon again.

[edit on 9-9-2009 by BaronVonGodzilla]



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:13 AM
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The Republican party is advocating ignoring WND. For them at this point not to ignore WND is a death sentence. This "birther" argument is worn out, stale and asinine. No self-respecting Republican is going to give it an ounce of creedence anymore. Well maybe Sarah Palin might but she doesn't have any self-respect anyway.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by skycopilot
According to another article I will add, the legal urgency of this case is real - and helps explain why an illegal/illegitimate president is in a rush to steal the remaining freedoms of Americans. This is not to say we have a 'Democrat-only' conspiracy. Clearly, a major section of both parties are in on the usurpation of American's freedoms as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution:


i doubt very much that a person's birthplace is a factor in his loyalties.

after all, if obama is against america, what about the americans that work with him?



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by damwel
The Republican party is advocating ignoring WND. For them at this point not to ignore WND is a death sentence.


I completely agree with your point, but do you have anything which points to the Party officially advocating that members ignore WND?



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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So what I am hearing you (among others) saying is "shut up!"

I also hear you say, "So what if he was not 'natural born' as the constitution requires, ignore the law of the land and get with the program."

I also imagine you do not want anyone asking questions about 9-11. After all, the government knows what is best.

And then there are those pesky 'coffins' (yes, the patent numbers verify the use) stockplied by FEMA.

Who are you guys, anyway? You aren't debunkers, you are silencers.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by skycopilot
I also hear you say, "So what if he was not 'natural born' as the constitution requires, ignore the law of the land and get with the program."


if he's not natural born, then i say kick him out. law is the law.

but it sounds like a "push the round peg through the square hole"

i mean even hawaiian newspaper archives have congratulations to mrs. obama for the baby boy.

like its one thing to have a legitimate case and its another to push something because your desperate to get him out



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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I was born in Hawaii! I had to show my birth certificate to the employment office for my state last week to be placed on a job list!

And he refuses to display the certificate that is given for a live birth in the state of Hawaii!

Do you get what I am saying????????



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