Originally posted by jimmyx
it's not the information in the faux interview that is being questioned, it's the way it was delivered.
Not the point of the thread. Off topic. Not germane. Out of the box. But do go on...
there is enough of a problem trying to get this information re-investigated, by credible people, that would be risking reputations and possibly
their lives if they take this on.
Yes, with you so far...
remember, people that want this reopened are in a constant fight against being called "tin-hatters", or "conspirecy nuts", so i agree with
the ATS staff that alex jones created more of a problem with his hoax interview, than the actual good that would have come from it.
And I have no problem with you thinking that, with the ATS staff thinking that. I agree with that statement myself.
But what we've had is a kangaroo court being convened at ATS and, partly to drive up site traffic, they attempted to mobilise the members
are not allowed to use this site to organise that kind of action and for good reasons which to my mind have just been demonstrated.
Before all the facts were in, ATS admin leapt to the obvious conclusion that it was an intentional hoax and tried to capitalise on the fact that it
had been discovered here.
There followed a distressing and immature display of mob mentality.
Not only do I think it's a corrupt use of admin's power, but I think that for anyone who really wants this information to get out, the ATS
intervention was lose-lose.
It actually does the work of the PTB by discrediting Jones, who, whatever you think of him, at least gets information
So, if you want the truth out there, you lose because the truth in the document gets lost in the controversy. If you hate Jones, you lose because he
really doesn't seem to give too much of a you-know-what and may even be benefiting from the publicity.
I may also remind people who haven't read the whole thread that Skeptic Overlord said it was to prevent people thinking the interview actually
happened. Well, that seemed disingenuous and when I looked at the email, it highlighted the fact that we had the "before" and "after" screenshots
on our site. That's
all about exposing AJ as a hoaxter. When called to comment on this discrepancy SO preferred to evade rather than
Interestingly, similar behaviour to Jones when caught in a contradiction.
At this point, for the hard of thinking, I'll repeat what I have said many times in this thread: I am most certainly NOT A FAN of Alex
I read the document: it's pathetic in its crawly-bumlick attitude to Obama, but it contains useful information that people deserve to hear.
The ATS intervention has wedded the word "Hoax" to the interview INCLUDING ITS CINTENT
for many people picking up on the story.
The more we indulge in this kind of utterly pointless in-fighting, the happier the perps will be. Nice one.
I really shouldn't have started this thread, because it's making me think too much about Alex Jones. His hectoring voice, that porcine jowly
face... I may have to go and lie down and try to think happy thoughts. Again.
[edit on 10-9-2009 by rich23]