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Topic started on 4-9-2009 @ 03:34 PM by AlwaysQuestion

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JERUSALEM (CNN) -- An archaeological dig in Jerusalem has turned up a 3,700-year-old wall that is the largest and oldest of its kind found in the region, experts say.

The wall is built of enormous boulders, confounding archaeologists as to how ancient peoples built it.

Standing 8 meters (26 feet) high, the wall of huge cut stones is a marvel to archaeologists.

"To build straight walls up 8 meters ... I don't know how to do it today without mechanical equipment," said the excavation's director, Ronny Reich. "I don't think that any engineer today without electrical power [could] do it."

Full article on CNN

Amazing what they keep turning up and also how perplexed they are on how these structures get built...

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 03:58 PM by breakingdradles

Now that they found this, their next step will be scouring the bible for a vauge reference to a wall then claim this as proof.

Nice find though OP, ancient builders had exceptional skills, maybe even a little help too

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:01 PM by On the level

I think it is further evidence of advanced ancient engineering that defies the technology that was available at the time.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:05 PM by rogerstigers

Wow.

And to put this into context, I looked a little on the 1800-1700 period of BCE. Europe just entered the Bronze age. Noah supposedly died. Egypt was invaded from the north (Man, those Egyptians are an old civilization), and the Indus Valley civilization had just been destroyed by the Aryan invaders of the north.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:09 PM by AlwaysQuestion

Does make you wonder how its achieved?!

Certainly if purely man-made then they had some clever construction processes and some clever people to work it all out.

I'll sit and marvel at some of the modern buildings / processes on the 'disco' channel, yet these guys managed to shift and build on a massive scale.

IMHO People were far more advanced than history teaches.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:32 PM by Bspiracy

It's been proven time and time again that we know nothing of our history in the mainstream. I'm pretty darn sure that someone knows who and how these were created but it's probably buried under a mountain of other knowledge deep within some Vatican chamber labeled "Stolen Secrets Vault 0035".. which of course is next to all of the other 4 digit number vaults labeled "Stolen Secrets"

There needs to be a thread started regarding all of the ancient structures that "Baffle" scientists. The OP would be very long indeed.

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:51 PM by Picollo30

why dont debunkers like Harte and Byrd come to these type of threads, Baalbek, this one for example and give their oppinions and debunk away?

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:51 PM by ZeroKnowledge

What is the big mystery? Anywhere you dig in Jerusalem area you will find something if you dig deep enough. It is inhabited for very long time, and this wall is probably from Jebusites time.
And if one does not trust biblical sources for whatever reasons (scholar or plain anti-something) - both Jebustes and Jerusalem are mentioned in archeological data from Syria/Egypt. Ancient builders were very skilled at what they did because things then were built not for mass production and profit, but for functionality over long time. It is not possible now due to population boom and economical situation. I assure you that using pulleys and leverage it is not a rocket science to put one heavy stone on another for experience builder , and planning it to stand for long time is not a rocket science for experienced architect.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 04:54 PM by Movhisattva

Wow, great find! Thanks for sharing.

Originally posted by AlwaysQuestion
IMHO People were far more advanced than history teaches.

I couldn't agree more, it's hard to ignore the ever growing amount of archaeological findings to back it up (not saying this one is per se extraordinary, but an exciting find nevertheless). The library of Alexandria would come in handy.

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 05:15 PM by Blackmarketeer

Wall is believed to have been built by Canaanites

Those crazy Canaanites again ... (see the Baalbek topic)

Looking at the history of the peoples of the Levant and Judea, and the vicious wars among these various tribes, you can see how stone building techniques would expand. Wars are always good for pushing technology forward!

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 05:35 PM by zazzafrazz

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Now why would you go and bring common sence into this thread?
Of course using stone isnt a human technological ability.
Only ancient astronauts, who can bend time and space, would have requirement and ability for a stone wall....
Ghheeesh

Other posters, this is a fortification to protect a water source, a very human thing to do.
As we porgressed, people worked out it was easy to build with small brick, than lug large stones..human advancement....By the time we hit Rome and Byazntium, bricks were very thin

Roman brick, example... the process of not lugging, but 'firing' bricks is a advancement.

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 05:50 PM by Blackmarketeer

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In this case, fortifying and protecting a water source, it would behoov the builders to use larger stones (4-5 tons as given in the article) as those best prevent sapper attacks.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 06:01 PM by aleon1018

Could this be the wailing wall of the Annunaki

Higher walls to keep people out or to herd animlas into? Kinda reminds me of Jurassic Park.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 06:33 PM by Donny 4 million

Originally posted by AlwaysQuestion
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JERUSALEM (CNN) -- An archaeological dig in Jerusalem has turned up a 3,700-year-old wall that is the largest and oldest of its kind found in the region, experts say.

The wall is built of enormous boulders, confounding archaeologists as to how ancient peoples built it.

Standing 8 meters (26 feet) high, the wall of huge cut stones is a marvel to archaeologists.

"To build straight walls up 8 meters ... I don't know how to do it today without mechanical equipment," said the excavation's director, Ronny Reich. "I don't think that any engineer today without electrical power [could] do it."

Full article on CNN

Amazing what they keep turning up and also how perplexed they are on how these structures get built...

Hey I don't want to burst your bubble. Everyone should be proud of the accomplishments of man-woman kind.
But if that picture is the main course, you need to do some comparison checks. If Egypt were NYC then that place you show would be Elkins West Virginia. No offence. Just sayin.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 06:54 PM by punkinworks

reply to post by Picollo30

Because there is nothing to debunk, its an old caananite site, what is there to debunk.
We know that the caananites were there,and that jeruselum is a very very old site.
It wouldnt surprise me that people had been building walls around the springs in the area for 20,000 years or more.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 07:03 PM by punkinworks

The discovery does add creadence to an article I read on an obscure Isreali archeology site.
They had a report by a geologist, that had been taking core samples of temple mount, that had found what he called "megalithic blocks" deep in the hill of temple mount.
Very interesting stuff indeed

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 07:04 PM by randyvs

reply to post by zazzafrazz

the process of not lugging, but 'firing' bricks is a advancement.

i'm pretty sure when op said the on site pros. archeologists have no idea how it could have been built w/ out machinary. i think lugging, was probly the first thing, they we're ruling out. k?

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 07:08 PM by marg6043

Cities like Jerusalem were burn, destroy and rebuild wall upon wall for a period of hundreds and thousands of years.

The same way that we here in the Americas are still trying to figure out how the ancient civilizations were able to make perfect pyramides and lines that can only be seen from air so the old world had its share of wonders too.

Hey is always the hints of extraterrestrial help.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 07:23 PM by zazzafrazz

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Not archaelogistS, one said that, perhaps to get some promotion to the find.
Lug, roll, drag, float, push...whatever, its the resource they had at the time to fortify.

reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 07:30 PM by IntelRetard

There was a great civilization tens of thousands of years ago. Then they elected a leader who was partial to socialist ideology with only the interests of the corporate elite in mind. Most moved out of the solar system to create a society based on achievement and merit for a better standard of living!

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