To those against Socialism and the Feds

reply to post by TheOracle


Socialism actually suits the Feds, and elite model very well. It was through a Democrat, President Woodrow Wilson that the Federal Reserve Act was signed.

The Socialist ideal, and programs is the perfect way, and only way to bring in a One World Socialist government. Only by trying to unite as many, if not all nations under ONE doctrine can the elite goal for a One World Government exist.

You state that people must think before saying anything about the Socialist programs being implemented in the United States, but it is obvious that you haven't followed your own advice.

Originally posted by TheOracle

The only difference is in people's minds, they will feel robbed by socialists because the tax money is used to help others when they didnt mind their tax money was used to bomb others.
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Have you even LISTENED to the plans that even President Obama wants for the healthcare reform?... Obviously you haven't... Some members and myself have posted, several times, video interviews of PRESIDENT OBAMA HIMSELF, stating clearly what he, and his administration wants, and IT WON'T HELP AMERICANS. Even left wing websites, and reporters, such as Maddow, and the Huff have been posting this information, yet people like you still want to "blindly believe' the lies you keep hearing from the administration...

I think you need to differentiate between socialism and our economy having some socialistic aspects. I have major problems with the profit motive controlling everything essential to our well being. I favor socialism in these areas:

Food staples
Utilities
Healthcare
Education

The socialistic approach would cover the basic elements of the above. I would leave the rest of it up to capitalism.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


Socialism when under central authority control raises cost typically. If you use a socialist scheme in these important areas you will drive up the cost for them for everyone equally.

Eliminating subsidies and tariffs increases competition and lowers costs. The rules for every market must be the same though. For instance if there is a minimum wage required by law in one nation than you have to institute tariffs against products of a nation that either subsidizes their industry or does not require the same minimum wage.

This not the case and that is why these sectors seem to require price controls and other state run factors. If we really had free market capitalism and we do not these areas of commerce would have natural cost controls in place. What we have is crony capitalism, corporatism and short sighted nationalism. Not just in the United States but across the board.

Socialism is not the answer, it is just a way to make the situation more complicated and expensive. When everyone absorbs the higher cost it just seems more fair.


[edit on 28-8-2009 by wayouttheredude]

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


I, like millions of other people, have lived the true Socialist ideals which have ALWAYS turned into dictatorship and the destruction of countries.

Socialism does not favors individualism, but rather puts 'the whole before individualism' which opens up a can of worms and gives the power to the state to smother individualism and take away freedom of the individual for "a greater cause". This type of mentality always causes oppression against the people.

The government should NEVER run healthcare, and education should never be an attempt to indoctirnate children, and people into one mindset.