I believe that we are not alone in this huge universe but please, i wish people stopped believeing in all this stuff, similar 2012 predictions have
been done many many times in the past and nothing ever happened, with no scientific evidence, what makes this time different? you cant base this off
of a few people saying blahblahblah or a calender!
The calender ends... yes, but so does ours... it just resets and starts all over again, just like the mayan calender will.
Apparantly something is going to hit the sun tomarrow and we might get fried, ill bet you £1000 nothing happens, same thing over and over and over
again and im quite sick of it.
2012. We have two choices., page 1
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Topic started on 21-8-2009 @ 10:36 AM by Mr Green
Well after reading yet more doom and gloom about 2012 I have come to a personal conclusion. Our ascension is totally in our hands. We have been given
the choice and free will to do as we wish. We have been given two choices and it is these that will play a major part in what we manifest.
LOVE and FEAR. In truth these are the only choices we have, everything else inbetween is a shade of one of these two choices. These are the two emotions the soul can decide between. They are of course completely opposite to each other and this I believe is how our duality was brought about. LOVE/FEAR are part of the one spectrum which was created from the ONE to show us what we are not. We are all of LOVE but in order to remember this on the road to ascension we need to have fear there to show us what we are not. I once chose fear, but in choosing it it showed me what LOVE is NOT. To learn what we are NOT is one way to bring us closer to what we actually are.
Our thoughts are energy, they are a creative energy that is able to manifest form. What we think we become. EVERY human thought is based on either FEAR or LOVE. In every situation we face our INITIAL thought will be based on either LOVE or FEAR. It is that initial thought of the soul that has as its source the power to create.
Unfortunatly from birth we are programmed to make the majority of our initial thoughts (those that are the powerful ones capable of the creation and outcome of our own persoanl realities) based on FEAR. We are taught it is the survival of the strongest, most educated, richer and powerful that is what matters. We now live in a fear based reality even though we may be totally unaware of this. All or most desicions we make (relationships, religion, business, family, economic.....) are based on the choice of FEAR. Think about this and you will see it is correct.
I think the whole point to the 2012 ascension is to change to a thought process based TOTALLY on unconditional LOVE. This is what we must do, we must choose LOVE over FEAR.
The more doom and gloom we feel over 2012 the more we will actually manifest it. Frequencies of love have been sent to help raise our souls ability to choose LOVE as our manifestation thought of choice, but it seems there are other forces at work blocking this as many many people still feel more comfertable choosing FEAR as their souls creative force.
LOVE and FEAR can NOT coexist, which is why it is so important we choose LOVE.
timelessmiracles.com...
So the more we vibrate at LOVE the closer we are to the source. Is not 2012 ALL about getting closer to the source?
FEAR is the choice of those who dont want this ascension. To stop this ascension is to remain in control of us and our planet. Reject FEAR and you reject them.
To me once we choose LOVE as our force behind all we are, all the decisions we make and lessons we learn,this impending doom and global catastrophe really dont have any place.
Is this the mistake our ancestors made? The majority chose fear over love and so this is why we did not ascend last time around???
LOVE and FEAR. In truth these are the only choices we have, everything else inbetween is a shade of one of these two choices. These are the two emotions the soul can decide between. They are of course completely opposite to each other and this I believe is how our duality was brought about. LOVE/FEAR are part of the one spectrum which was created from the ONE to show us what we are not. We are all of LOVE but in order to remember this on the road to ascension we need to have fear there to show us what we are not. I once chose fear, but in choosing it it showed me what LOVE is NOT. To learn what we are NOT is one way to bring us closer to what we actually are.
Our thoughts are energy, they are a creative energy that is able to manifest form. What we think we become. EVERY human thought is based on either FEAR or LOVE. In every situation we face our INITIAL thought will be based on either LOVE or FEAR. It is that initial thought of the soul that has as its source the power to create.
Unfortunatly from birth we are programmed to make the majority of our initial thoughts (those that are the powerful ones capable of the creation and outcome of our own persoanl realities) based on FEAR. We are taught it is the survival of the strongest, most educated, richer and powerful that is what matters. We now live in a fear based reality even though we may be totally unaware of this. All or most desicions we make (relationships, religion, business, family, economic.....) are based on the choice of FEAR. Think about this and you will see it is correct.
I think the whole point to the 2012 ascension is to change to a thought process based TOTALLY on unconditional LOVE. This is what we must do, we must choose LOVE over FEAR.
The more doom and gloom we feel over 2012 the more we will actually manifest it. Frequencies of love have been sent to help raise our souls ability to choose LOVE as our manifestation thought of choice, but it seems there are other forces at work blocking this as many many people still feel more comfertable choosing FEAR as their souls creative force.
Love and fear are the only emotions we as human entities are able to express. All the others are just sub-categorical emotions. For example, on love's side there is joy, peacefulness, happiness, forgiveness, and a host of others. On the other hand, fear reflects: hate, depression, guilt, inadequacy, discontentment, prejudice, anger, attack, and so on.
Love and fear can not coexist.
LOVE and FEAR can NOT coexist, which is why it is so important we choose LOVE.
Love is LIGHT. Fear is DARKNESS. When you turn on a light, darkness is no more. There is not a trace of it left! There is not even a hint of darkness ever having been there! God is LOVE. Love is light. We are all children of God, therefore, in truth, we are only LOVE. When we act out of fear, we are turning out the light, denying our truth, and entering into the darkness. We leave our love behind and attempt to be something we are not. We attempt to be apart from our Source; apart from God.
timelessmiracles.com...
So the more we vibrate at LOVE the closer we are to the source. Is not 2012 ALL about getting closer to the source?
FEAR is the choice of those who dont want this ascension. To stop this ascension is to remain in control of us and our planet. Reject FEAR and you reject them.
To me once we choose LOVE as our force behind all we are, all the decisions we make and lessons we learn,this impending doom and global catastrophe really dont have any place.
Is this the mistake our ancestors made? The majority chose fear over love and so this is why we did not ascend last time around???
reply posted on 21-8-2009 @ 03:08 PM by Neo-V™
reply to post by john124
Let's assume it is all crap, that 21/12/2012 will just be like any other day, is mankind changing for the better, crap?
Let's assume it is all crap, that 21/12/2012 will just be like any other day, is mankind changing for the better, crap?
reply posted on 21-8-2009 @ 07:47 PM by phi1618
reply to post by Mr Green
totally agree with oyu OP, ascension required work, without the work and time put into it one will never achieve it. No global shift will ever make ascension happen, death maybe, ascension no.
totally agree with oyu OP, ascension required work, without the work and time put into it one will never achieve it. No global shift will ever make ascension happen, death maybe, ascension no.
reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 08:43 AM by Neo-V™
reply to post by Mr Green
“The greatest revolution of our generation is the discovery that human beings, by changing the inner attitudes of their minds, can change the outer aspects of their lives”
- William James
And that for me is what 2012 is about and find it frustrating when people say 2012 is all nonsense, because of the underlying message of unity, and realising that WE can change the World, we just have to change our ways.
“The greatest revolution of our generation is the discovery that human beings, by changing the inner attitudes of their minds, can change the outer aspects of their lives”
- William James
And that for me is what 2012 is about and find it frustrating when people say 2012 is all nonsense, because of the underlying message of unity, and realising that WE can change the World, we just have to change our ways.
reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 06:16 PM by Neo-V™
Originally posted by Mr Green
Like energy attracts like energy. as more and more of us choose LOVE over FEAR the populations spirits will become more and more aware. More will follow. So you see we CAN change things, we can change our world but we have to start with ourselves first.
"Drop the fear. Fear was taken up by you in your childhood, unconsciously. Now consciously drop it and be mature. Then the life can be a light which goes on deepening as you go on growing."
- Osho
A study published in the peer-reviewed journal Social Indicators Research reports on one of the most dramatic sociological experiments ever undertaken. Researchers predicted in advance that the calming influence of group meditation practice could reduce violent crime by over 20 percent in Washington, D.C., during an 8-week period in the summer of 1993. In fact, the findings later showed that the rate of violent crime--which included assaults, murders, and rapes--decreased by 23 percent during the June 7 to July 30 experimental period. The odds of this result occurring by chance are less than 2 in 1 billion. Rigorous statistical analyses ruled out an extensive list of alternative explanations, according to John Hagelin, lead author of the study and director of the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa.
Source
One Percent for World Peace
A few years later Maharishi made a prediction: If as little as 1% of the world's population practiced Transcendental Meditation, there would be no more wars. The peaceful influence created by people practicing Transcendental Meditation, he said, radiates throughout the environment, like the light from a bulb radiates throughout a darkened room.
At that time, in the early 1960s, there were too few meditators in the world to test Maharishi's prediction, even on a small scale. But by the end of 1974, more than 250,000 people were meditating in the United States, and many small cities in the country had 1% of their population practicing the technique.
The first study to test Maharishi's prediction occurred in December 1974, when scientists measured quality-of-life indicators in 4 cities where 1% of the population was practicing Transcendental Meditation. They examined such standard and publicly accessible indices as crime statistics, accident rates, and hospital admissions.
Decreased Crime in 1% Cities
When these findings were compared with similar research from four control cities matched for population density, geography, economic conditions, etc., a remarkable discovery was made.
The cities with 1% of their populations practicing the Transcendental Meditation program showed a decrease in crime rate while the matched control cities showed an increase in crime rate -- as did the U.S. as a whole.
The researchers then expanded their study to include eleven 1% cities and eleven control cities. They found a 16.6 percent reduction in crime rates among the 1% cities compared to the non-one-percent cities.
Source
All we need now is the "Hundredth Monkey".
reply posted on 23-8-2009 @ 07:49 AM by Mr Green
Originally posted by Neo-V™
"Drop the fear. Fear was taken up by you in your childhood, unconsciously. Now consciously drop it and be mature. Then the life can be a light which goes on deepening as you go on growing."
- Osho
Yes fear is taken into our being from a very early age in an unconscious manner. Human fear (psychological fear and not immediate danger fear like being trapped in a fire) is based in the mind , it comes in many forms such as unease, worry, anxiety, nervousness, tension and dread. These emotions are very different from an instinct to leave a situation like a fire.
Psychological fear (opposite to love) is always based on what we think might happen and not what is actually happening. Our spirit knows fully we have nothing to fear but our mind tells us we do, it tells us we do because since childhood it has been conditioned to feel fear over love. We have learnt to choose fear because we have lost connection to spirit, our spirit fears not, but our mind does.
Most peoples lives are run by desire and fears. Desire is the need to add something to yourself in order to be yourself more fully. All fear is the fear of losing something and thereby becoming diminished and being less. - Echhart Tolle
Your right we need to drop the fear, because we have nothing to fear, we are everything we ever can be already and this can never be taken away or diminished.
The answer to 2012 is to be found in the inner space of each of our hearts of this Im convinced. Just as the Mayan descendants have said in the excellent video you put up... www.abovetopsecret.com...
...Our world is created by the consciousness connected through our heart centre.
[edit on 23-8-2009 by Mr Green]
reply posted on 23-8-2009 @ 10:24 AM by autowrench
Originally posted by Mr Green
Well after reading yet more doom and gloom about 2012 I have come to a personal conclusion. Our ascension is totally in our hands. We have been given the choice and free will to do as we wish. We have been given two choices and it is these that will play a major part in what we manifest.
Autowrench:
Mr. Green, a Star and Flag for you. Great post. You are absolutely correct here too, we are our own saviours here, and the ET everyone is talking about are here to watch, to see what we do. The ones who ascend will have prepared themselves for this, and will be open to it. The tools for ascension are freely given to anyone who wishes to open their mind to new possibilities.
LOVE and FEAR. In truth these are the only choices we have, everything else inbetween is a shade of one of these two choices. These are the two emotions the soul can decide between. They are of course completely opposite to each other and this I believe is how our duality was brought about. LOVE/FEAR are part of the one spectrum which was created from the ONE to show us what we are not. We are all of LOVE but in order to remember this on the road to ascension we need to have fear there to show us what we are not. I once chose fear, but in choosing it it showed me what LOVE is NOT. To learn what we are NOT is one way to bring us closer to what we actually are.
Autowrench:
Clap clap! By any chance, have you read "The 21 Lessons of Merlyn?" I am in full agreement here. These are the ONLY two choices anyone has, and will ever have, Love, or Fear. I especially like that last sentence, "To learn what we are NOT is one way to bring us closer to what we actually are." wish I'd said that! Personally, I can feel myself changing into that which I really am, even though I am not sure what that is, I am open to it, and ready for it. Fear has no place in a strong mind and will, but sadly, fear drives those who are afraid, and those who cling to old beliefs forced upon them by the priestly class.
Our thoughts are energy, they are a creative energy that is able to manifest form. What we think we become. EVERY human thought is based on either FEAR or LOVE. In every situation we face our INITIAL thought will be based on either LOVE or FEAR. It is that initial thought of the soul that has as its source the power to create.
Autowrench:
This is something I have been trying, without much success to postulate to the members. That everything is energy, really, and the only real difference is the frequencies of the energy. The lower frequencies deal with fear and greed, and anger, the higher frequencies deal with love and giving, and creation. You may not know this, but material objects have been manifested by human thoughts, as far back as 1970 or so. (Montauk Project)
It has also been discovered that the general human healthy frequency is within the range of 62-72 Hz and when it drops to lower levels it enables the appearance of variety of diseases. For example at the level of 58 Hz, diseases like cold and flu were more likely to appear. On much lower levels (42 Hz) Cancer appeared in quite may humans.
www.healtone.com...
Unfortunatly from birth we are programmed to make the majority of our initial thoughts (those that are the powerful ones capable of the creation and outcome of our own persoanl realities) based on FEAR. We are taught it is the survival of the strongest, most educated, richer and powerful that is what matters. We now live in a fear based reality even though we may be totally unaware of this. All or most desicions we make (relationships, religion, business, family, economic.....) are based on the choice of FEAR. Think about this and you will see it is correct.
Autowrench: Again, right on. We are even taught to Fear God! The competitive spirit is driven into children at a very early age, the breed fighters and soldiers. Those born into the Rich Elite Classes are taught to rule, and the Lower Classes not in the elite are taught to enlist and fight. Has there not been a war for every generation since the Civil War? And, haven't all wars, with the exception of the Civil War, fought over religion,? or the lack of it, in the case of Korea....
I think the whole point to the 2012 ascension is to change to a thought process based TOTALLY on unconditional LOVE. This is what we must do, we must choose LOVE over FEAR.
Is this the mistake our ancestors made? The majority chose fear over love and so this is why we did not ascend last time around???
Autowrench:
I think we will have a chance to go forth and create our own universe. You can laugh if you wish, but I have been thinking that for many years now, and there are a lot of us who are attempting to do this. We are awake, and tired of being in the cycle of fear and mind control, or artificial happiness, and lack of sustainable resources. Is anyone of us really, truly happy?
Even the rich are unhappy.
This is a very good post, Mr. Green, I am adding you as a friend.
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