i agree. americans are very prude when it comes to sexuality. maybe not behind closed doors, but in general, we are. people dont feel comfortable just talking about sex out in the open to anyone. its something that for some reason is still "taboo" for many people to talk about. I personally dont get it. Every european i have ever known has been so (almost too much) open about their sexuality and they think its a beautiful thing, and why be ashamed of it?

it is true though. parents dont have a single clue half the stuff kids in the teen years do. i sure know my parents didnt know anything i was doing.

i think if parents felt more comfortable talking openly about sexuality not in a "dont have sex until your married" way but in a normal, conversation way saying "i accept it if you are having sex, because that is only normal, but here are the pros and cons" , they would be much more successful having an open relationship with their kids and they might not act out quite so badly. ive found this to be true once i started opening up to my mom, i didnt feel the need to act out anymore, because she knew i was gonna do whatever i felt like doing and she accepted it.

Having lived in America all my life...yes, we're prudes. We protect children from penises far more than we protect them against blood, bombs, and rockets (which are shaped likes penises anyway.)

LOL European people talk more about Sex then American People is BS. I'll let people into a little secret...it is marketing scam..what do you think is gonna happen when you start telling the American public that Europe is some perverted continent that talks about sex ect. There all gonna flood there. Its gonna boost european economys. Theres more catholics in europe than anywhere in the world...and we all know how strict catholics are when is come to talking about sex ''its a sin''. Honestly its BS!!

Where did Playboy come from? What about the worlds first Sex icon Marylane Manroe? Or what about Madonna. America aint as tight as people think it is!


Tsom87

This is a classic example of a phenomenon called porn creep. Porn creep involves pornographic things "creeping" into the mainstream. For example, 20 years ago only women in porno got "Brazilian" waxes. Now, many women, including grandmothers, , get them.

Pole dancing was something that was reserved for strippers. Now it seems everybody, including the squeeky clean Hannah Montana, is doing it. Please do not say I did not warn you when an 80 year old grandma does it at a Bar Mitzva near you.

Originally posted by TSOM87
LOL European people talk more about Sex then American People is BS. I'll let people into a little secret...it is marketing scam..what do you think is gonna happen when you start telling the American public that Europe is some perverted continent that talks about sex ect. There all gonna flood there. Its gonna boost european economys. Theres more catholics in europe than anywhere in the world...and we all know how strict catholics are when is come to talking about sex ''its a sin''. Honestly its BS!!

Where did Playboy come from? What about the worlds first Sex icon Marylane Manroe? Or what about Madonna. America aint as tight as people think it is!


Tsom87

ok not sure where you are coming from, because ive known many people from europe, including spain, france, sweden, germany, and bulgaria... and all of them are very comfortable with their sexuality and talk very openly about it.

Originally posted by calihan_12

Originally posted by TSOM87
LOL European people talk more about Sex then American People is BS. I'll let people into a little secret...it is marketing scam..what do you think is gonna happen when you start telling the American public that Europe is some perverted continent that talks about sex ect. There all gonna flood there. Its gonna boost european economys. Theres more catholics in europe than anywhere in the world...and we all know how strict catholics are when is come to talking about sex ''its a sin''. Honestly its BS!!

Where did Playboy come from? What about the worlds first Sex icon Marylane Manroe? Or what about Madonna. America aint as tight as people think it is!


Tsom87

ok not sure where you are coming from, because ive known many people from europe, including spain, france, sweden, germany, and bulgaria... and all of them are very comfortable with their sexuality and talk very openly about it.

Yeah and i know Americans who very openly about there sexuality. Its something i'v allways found weird how people think that Europe is like that. I know Music and TV can portray certain things and i think this is one of them!

Tsom87

The United States has an incredibly unhealthy and screwed up attitude of just about any people I have seen.

On one hand sex is everywhere...as jokes...as ads...on TV and in the movies... in fashion...not just adults but kids as well... it is displayed everywhere

On the other hand we are severely repressed about it...and do our best to hide it...and when it comes to our children we are positively psychotic about it.

I am reminded of a story I read once.

This anthropologist was recording some of the ritual songs of the Hopi. After a performance was over he asked an elder why was it most of their songs were about water?

The elder replied that they sang about what they needed the most of and had the least of. He then added that they had noticed that most of the white man's songs were about love.

OUCH!!!

And oh so true.

We separate sex from love (and yes it is often separated...sometimes its easier to get laid than make friends...easier to open legs than it is to open hearts) and then turn around and insist that they are inseperable.

We are a mess.

Miley Cyrus is, although she may not want to be, a role model for an extremely large amount of very young girls. She sent the message that it if fun and ok to dance around a pole. I'm not saying that is what she was trying to do, or even that is how I interpreted it, but to young impresionable girls it is a bad message.

Originally posted by El Davicho
2. Your 16 year olds are being far more sexual than parents would ever admit, or be able to cope with. If my parents knew what my Junior High was like...

This is probably because they are exposed to their idols dancing around poles, or kissing Madonna on MTV, etc.

-E-

well just like the above poster stated, nudity on television and people walking around nude in europe is much more acceptable. sorry you dont believe that, but it is.

america is extremely uptight when it comes to nudity. i mean... why do you think people arent free to walk around naked in their town? its not acceptable. but in many places it is and its a normal part of life.

americans only see sexuality in terms of porn and the "ideal" woman. americans have been so warped by media in general, and the same has happened with sexuality. it is all only media for people now. they watch a porn flick a few times and think thats how women look and what they do in bed.
im a female, i should know this. many guys are completely dilusional because of the medias portrayal of sex. the sex in porn is a fantasy.. it is a MOVIE just like you wouldnt believe the stuff you see in regular movies, you shouldnt believe the things you see in porn are what actual couples do... because most dont. and if they do, im willing to bet they were influenced by what they have seen in porn. its unhealthy

at least europeans have a healthy view on those things. they are not unrealistic and they see beauty in just about everyone , whether they be fat and hairy or perfect.

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The more you try and hide sexual matters, the more "creepy" and yet enticing you make them. You highten the energy value ten fold.

As soon as you ease up and start talking about it openly, the energy level goes way down it just becomes another part of life.

Spoken as a North American still trying to get over the prudish attitudes I grew up with, not from my parents, who were European, but from the rest society here.

Originally posted by grover
The United States has an incredibly unhealthy and screwed up attitude of just about any people I have seen.

On one hand sex is everywhere...as jokes...as ads...on TV and in the movies... in fashion...not just adults but kids as well... it is displayed everywhere

On the other hand we are severely repressed about it...and do our best to hide it...and when it comes to our children we are positively psychotic about it.

I am reminded of a story I read once.

This anthropologist was recording some of the ritual songs of the Hopi. After a performance was over he asked an elder why was it most of their songs were about water?

The elder replied that they sang about what they needed the most of and had the least of. He then added that they had noticed that most of the white man's songs were about love.

OUCH!!!

And oh so true.

We separate sex from love (and yes it is often separated...sometimes its easier to get laid than make friends...easier to open legs than it is to open hearts) and then turn around and insist that they are inseperable.

We are a mess.

agreed

people definitely seperate love from sex. it really can no longer be called "making love", just sex, because people usually dont love the people they sleep with these days.. they just meet some random person at a club and think well they are hot, im gonna sleep with them

or they pay for them... as made so popular by shows like "millionaire matchmaker" and "megan wants a millionaire" etc. now all you see is a bunch of old or nerdy sugardaddies with gorgeous girls on their arm. you do know they are only paying them for sex right?



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The whole problem here is not about America's tolerance of sexuality, or lack there of. It is about a young role model, who until now was someone concerned parents felt safe exposing their kids to.

-E-

I believe the stereotype that Americans are all uptight prudes when it comes to sex while Europeans are much more free about it is a myth.

I live in the Bible belt and we still have gay pride parades, strip bars, all sorts of sex shops, billboards will semi-nudity, etc. Sex education for me was at the age of nine in the 4th grade. We have openly transgendered politicians holding office.

Sex is all over our advertising and media. Like another member above me said- anyone see MTV lately? Even your nightly sit-coms on prime time have all sorts of sexual-based episode themes. Hollywood produces extremely sexual movies. We have nude beaches and resorts and some cities allow public nudity.

As a former flight attendant, I've been to much of Western Europe and it's a mixed bag. For instance, England seems a bit more uptight about sexuality than America but France is rather similar. You'll have your parts of society, just like in America, that are part of certain subcultures or who are very open sexually.

So this myth that Americans are stuffy when it comes to sex simply isn't true. 50 years ago, maybe. But not in the 2000's. Where have all of you been? The sexual revolution began in the 60's and really changed the way our society approaches sex.

We're no longer a nation where married couples sleep in separate twin beds on television. I think it's time to drop the stereotype that Europeans are free and sexual while Americans still wear full dress to the beach or blush at the word 'sex.' It's not like that anymore.

amsterdam anyone?? why do you think people go there (besides drugs)?

its because people are repressed sexually and go their to unwind with some paid for hooker. gross as it may seem... but its the truth.

and its also as though people nowadays are trying to push the limits.. hookers, escorts, sugarbabies, porn, strippers.. its just plain nasty and not what sexuality is about in the first place








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