Special Forces soldier escapes from Vilseck hotel after kidnapping, sexual assault conviction, page 1
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Topic started on 20-8-2009 @ 11:25 AM by KSPigpen

Special Forces soldier escapes from Vilseck hotel after kidnapping, sexual assault conviction


www.stripes.com
VILSECK, Germany — A manhunt is under way for a U.S. Special Forces soldier who fled after being convicted of kidnapping and sexually assaulting a German woman.

Sgt. 1st Class Kelly A. Stewart — who was found guilty of multiple charges including kidnapping, forcible sodomy and aggravated sexual assault of a woman in an August 2008 incident — was last seen early Thursday morning by his escort at an on-post hotel.

Stewart, 36, is an Iraq war veteran who trains fellow Special Forces soldiers...
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 11:43 AM by KSPigpen
reply to post by jd140



Do you think they are going to have a hard time getting him back in custody, JD?

I've probably just seen too many movies.

Is it common to do what they did in this case and allow the soldier, even when found guilty, to go somewhere other than jail, with only one guard, or 'escort?'

The Germans seem really mad about that.

Can you tell me if I understand this correctly?

There was court-martial, in which he was found not guilty, he had a CIVILIAN trial by the Germans, was found GUILTY and then he was sentenced by a panel of Military?

Is that the way things are always done over there?


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:07 PM by KSPigpen
Reply to post by CaptainCaveMan


So she changed her mind and now it's rape, I guess. I just can't help but think there is more to it...that they wanted this guy gone. It ssems like the court-martial should have been thorough enough to determine if there was wrongdoing.



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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:26 PM by jd140
reply to post by pieman




Who is to say when or if she changed her mind or what she consented to?


If you answered the victim then you are a winner.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:43 PM by pieman
reply to post by jd140



and because of that, conviction rates for rape and sexual assault are among the lowest conviction rates for any crime. if the guy was convicted, i'ld say there was some good evidence.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 03:33 PM by jd140
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Read the article and let me know what the good evidence was.

I stand by my previous statement that if she wasn't a German National then there wouldn't have been a trial.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 04:03 PM by BlackOps719
reply to post by CaptainCaveMan





In all fairness to the "victim", none of us know for sure that this ended up being consentual because none of us were actually there.


Is it too impossible to believe that someone can put on the facade of being a nice, well mannered gentleman in public, but once behind closed doors could turn into a monster?

Remember, Ted Bundy was a super nice guy, well groomed, well mannered, and women adored him. Guess what he would do once behind closed doors?

Im not saying he definitely did it or is guilty of anything because sometimes people do make up lies. But to say this woman is a liar simply because she went along willingly in search of a normal one night stand is unfair.

This man was a special forces instructor and he could have easily brutalized and raped this woman and given her way more than she had bargained for.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 04:12 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by BlackOps719



This man was a special forces instructor and he could have easily brutalized and raped this woman and given her way more than she had bargained for.


In my opinion that is equivalent to the Kobe Bryant rape case.

Sure, getting a 6'6" athletic black man alone in your room sounds fun, but it may be more than you bargained for, and it is not a case of 'rape' it is a case of playing out of your league!!

A Special Forces soldier would surely be a little more physical than what she is used to. He is probably stronger, more aggressive, and has a higher pain tolerance. Therefore, it may not be rape, it may be a different type of sex than she is used to!

A lot of noises are hard to distinguish between pain and pleasure, so it is pretty easy for a guy to think she is enjoying it and go a little harder, when in actuality it is hurting. (Don't go flaming or calling me any names, my wife and I have this discussion a lot, if you have never had this discussion, you are not having good sex! )

I don't know if he is guilty or not, but given the circumstances, even the physical evidence would be suspect! Some men cause trauma even during normal intercourse, and even if they are trying to be careful. They are just a little harder to handle than your average girl is used to.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by getreadyalready]


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 04:23 PM by chillpill
reply to post by getreadyalready



what tosh!

the words are "forcibly sodomised" - I do not think anyone would be mistaking my sounds for pleasure if that happened to me.



so it's okay to be brutalised behind closed doors, because you agreed to go back...

hey, is it okay to beat your wife because she married you?

[edit on 20-8-2009 by chillpill]


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 04:26 PM by Hazelnut
reply to post by KSPigpen



I'm replying before reading the other comments. My intuition is speaking now. What if he was set up as a result of his participation in a false-flag operation? With his expertise and effectiveness as a special ops trainer... he would be like tom cruise or whoever it was in that spy flick.

Maybe he just flipped his lid because of the "vaccines" and/or other non-negotiable subjugations soldiers must undergo.
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