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posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:13 PM
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Nans is just trolling at this point. Ignore her and she will just go away.
She's irrelevant, just like the rest of the french




posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:14 PM
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Well i want to see what she has to say now. She is slamming American policy for something which is exactly what the French done.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Dreamstone
Nans is just trolling at this point. Ignore her and she will just go away.
She's irrelevant, just like the rest of the french


Why do you put all the french people in the same bag ?

Just say Nans, and don't forget, I'm Half French, Half Arab !

So I'm twice your enemy !



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:15 PM
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I'm half mexican half afrikaaner. Have fun with that



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:18 PM
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Mixed kids are the most beautiful.

They don't understand that I'm more a subversive anarchist provocator than a "french patriot".



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:27 PM
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By the early 19th century the Congo River had become a major avenue of commerce between the coast and the interior. Henry Morton Stanley, a British journalist, explored the river in 1877, but France acquired jurisdiction in 1880 when Pierre Savorgnan de Brazza signed a treaty with the Tio ruler. The formal proclamation of the colony of French Congo came in 1891. Early French efforts to exploit their possession led to ruthless treatment of the local people, and Brazza returned in 1905 to lead an inquiry. In 1910 the French joined Congo with neighbouring colonies as the federation of French Equatorial Africa, with its capital at Brazzaville.

The French were preoccupied with acquiring labour. Forced labour, head taxes, compulsory production of cash crops, and draconian labour contracts forced Africans to build infrastructure and to participate in the colonial economy. No project was more costly in African lives than the Congo-Ocean Railway, built between 1921 and 1934 from Pointe-Noire to Brazzaville; between 15,000 and 20,000 Africans died.


French forces established control over the Congo



All sections of mainstream politics in France have participated in the dirty game of baiting North African Arabs in France. In the early 1980s, the large and very influential Communist Party led racist demonstrations to physically attack districts in which North African Arabs and other African immigrants lived. In the most outrageous of these incidents, in 1983 a Parisian PCF mayor personally drove a bulldozer into a building housing immigrant workers from Mali. The PCF supported the French state against Muslim Algeria, when the latter was fighting for its independence. Today, the PCF opposes all new immigration, and approves of the states witchhunt of so-called illegal immigrants. When it was in government again in the 1990s, the Socialist Party enforced a tough immigration policy.


The French War on Islam?

Nans, still think France treats arabs good?



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
What I got against america ?

You bored everyone on earth ! You spitted on U.N., screaming and shooting that Iraq was a threat for your security and know you are in sh*t till neck with the Iraq people, you call U.N. to come and give you hand.

XXXX OFF ! Stay in you're sh*t, now ! You wanted to free Iraq, you have freed Iraq ! Assume you're position now.


Today Rumself and Another Secretary admitted that they would leave Iraq and go back in the good ol' mothernation as soon as possible.

Funny ! You was hurry to come in Iraq and now you better know how are the arabs, you are hurry to come back home !


You should listen to France, because we have a long experience of arabs, and we know how they are.


See, you are confussing American policy for Americans. Was it so hard to see through your propoganda goggles that a good portion opposed the war, and more do every day?

I guess so. I was never for the war. We do not have a hand in American foreign policy directly.

So quit with the you crap and blame the people who did it, rather than those who have to live with it.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:47 PM
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KrazyJethro, i think this anti-american thread has officially ended. After i compared what france done in the African colonies to America in Iraq, nothing has been said. After two days, i've finally shown that,what the coalilitation is doing in Iraq is exactly what the French done in the colonies. The so called "Evil policy" is basicly the same policy France had, and as for the statement about France knowing how to treat arabs, i've put nails in that coffin aswell. All i can say now is, i've spent two days defending America and i think your country should give me a medal of honor for defending your country
. But hey, T.W.A.T.S award will do just fine
nah im only playing



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
Why do you put all the french people in the same bag ?


And why do you put all americans in the same bag ?

youre no better than anyone else..



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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I think the idea of this thread was to get under peoples skin, its exactly what has happened.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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I know that, I mean colony, etc...and I know this history probably better than you. You are trying to make feel less guilty of your countries actual exaction by accusing my country...

It's not how things goes.

You must have a criticize look on your country act, and by the way, give alittle bit less importance to patriotism and a little bit more to humanism.

I know when my country is wrong, you don't know me but I'm militant, to make things better, stop and condamn the warcrimes and obtain repairs for the colonized nations.

Errr... this thread is going insane and senseless. I tought someone would close it when I've started posting some songs lyrics, but no.


But you are basically racists.
It's the only argument you have : HATE !

What a shame... Where are you going?..

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS


I know that, I mean colony, etc...and I know this history probably better than you. You are trying to make feel less guilty of your countries actual exaction by accusing my country...

It's not how things goes.

You must have a criticize look on your country act, and by the way, give alittle bit less importance to patriotism and a little bit more to humanism.

I know when my country is wrong, you don't know me but I'm militant, to make things better, stop and condamn the warcrimes and obtain repairs for the colonized nations.

Errr... this thread is going insane and senseless. I tought someone would close it when I've started posting some songs lyrics, but no.



Yes, but you said France knows how to treat arabs, but they don't. Your picking problems with America, when it has done the same things as France. You are also twisting things so they fit your way of thinking. As for the part about Humanism, im British, so i should know a lot about that. Its my country who created the idea of concentration camps, its my country that stood for slavery, its my country that is covered by the blood of the past.
What American troops done was wrong yes, but that doesn't mean that all Americans are like that. You are labelling the whole of America for something only a small group are guilty for. Im not afraid to say America is wrong, Im not afraid to say that there are somethings about America which i don't like, but if it wasn't for America i would be speaking German and my national flag would be the swastika instead of the union jack.
Everything you have said, its twisted into something that fits your views. Honey, if it wasn't for America, France would still be under German occupation.
You are standing by claims which are false and inaccurate. Admit it that all your claims cannot be proven fact and that some are even inaccurate.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
But you are basically racists.
It's the only argument you have : HATE !


Me a racist? please do explain how i am a racist....



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by infiniteYes, but you said France knows how to treat arabs, but they don't.


No, no, no... I said frenchs know how arabs can be a threat. Nuance...




Me a racist? please do explain how i am a racist....




I said racist because everytime someone criticize you, it's an anti-american. Because you have no arguments to justify what you are doing in Iraq, so, when I start claiming that american invasion in Iraq is not justified, you treat me of awsome frenchy, rebel to the american domination.

But sincerely, what you are doing in Iraq is really disgusting. You are just there for two dirty reasons :

1- OIL, Black Gold...
It would be intersting analysys the psychological mean of OIL in the american culture. You're COKE (c) is black like oil. You dont drink water, you drink oil or what ?


2-Revenge...and this is the most disgusting.
Revenge never save anybody. Revenge is a deadly spiral, and now you're entered in this spiral.

You always say that you are not a nation of brutish louts. But the only diplomacy you know is "we have the biggest weapons and we will nuke you if you don't do everything we say".

Okay, Here's the syllogism :

Bombers are terrorists.
Americans are bombers
American are terrorists

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]

And don't tell me that you are not bombers. You are harrassing me and threating me of threator just because I'm in the peace camp.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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No you said "we know how they",
but still, France treated arabs as the American did or even worse. You cannot slam American policy if France did the exact same.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by infinite]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:41 PM
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Nans IM NOT AMERICAN,
well what your saying isn't pro american, its against America. In my books thats anti-american.
and for the Final time - IM NOT AMERICAN -

And yes America are bombers and in a sense you can call it terrorism. France has always been in the peace camp, you were even in the "peace camp" when the Nazi's were walking around Paris.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by infinite]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
No you said "we know how they",
but still, France treated arabs as the American did or even worse. You cannot slam American policy if France did the exact same.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by infinite]


About the colony, I'm a bit disagree with your vision.

France colonized countries, sure, but bring them positives things like science, medecine, education...
We buildt schools, hospitals, and some others infrastructures in colonies.

We used to consider the colony just like France. We didn't bomb them by two times.

And we colonized also with missions.


My grand-father was an "indigen", from a north african tribe living in algeria called Amazigh (this mean the freemen). He received an education by the french monk in mission in Algeria.

I'm not sure that when you will go from Iraq, even ONE IRAQI will receive an education from you.

The only things you will give them are McDonalds and Coke. No education, no security, no social rights or political structure.



[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
France colonized countries, sure, but bring them positives things like science, medecine, education...
We buildt schools, hospitals, and some others infrastructures in colonies.


Forced labour,death,disease,etc. Yeah, you did goods things, but inforced a strict rule over them.



We used to consider the colony just like France. We didn't bomb them by two times.


Thats 'cause the technology wasn't even invented then! So France forced labour on its main land aswell?

Whats the point of me even debating with you anymore, everything i say, with evidence, is twisted or ignored. Go back to your dream world where france is a goodey-goodey-two-shoe who can do no wrong



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
I'm not sure that when you will go from Iraq, even ONE IRAQI will receive an education from you.


Thats because Iraq will have its OWN government by then. I would like to see France solve the problem in Iraq, France will probably end up do a "bring back saddam" campaign.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
What I got against america ?

You bored everyone on earth ! You spitted on U.N., screaming and shooting that Iraq was a threat for your security and know you are in sh*t till neck with the Iraq people, you call U.N. to come and give you hand.

You should listen to France, because we have a long experience of arabs, and we know how they are.


The UN is a joke, they are good for nothing but to make less informed people think they are humanitarian and care for human rights, when in truth many of the countries in the UN are dictatorships, and assasins who don't give a damn about the human rights of their own people.

Listen to France? You mean kissing China's butt and help them suppress "independance" from Taiwan and maybe other countries?

Or do you mean helping Islamic extremists to exterminate non-Muslim blacks like in Rwanda?

Your people change tactics and friendships when it fits them. First they fought against Islamic extremism, then the French helped Islamic extremists against non-Muslims, and now you are helping the Chinese, trying to suppress the independance of taiwan.

Listen to France.....yeah sure...


[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Muaddib]





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