America's history XXX !, page 1

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
No, US soldiers are differents, because they got fear. That's why they shot everything they see. Do you know that your army kill entrie family home ? Disarmed people ? Children, Women, Elder ?

Do you know what your country do ? I'm not sure. I know you have a doubt... You have some suspicions. But I'm sure your governement hide to your eyes the truth about america's dominance worldwide !

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Im more than aware of what goes on, NANS. Remeber, i sued to be in the army. I have lived around the world. I have seen things.

I also know through my experiences theres two sides to everything. No one just kills for the fun of it. They kill for reasons. Only serial killers and sociopaths just shoot people for no valid reason.

I know what I would do. Would I shoot a building full of lead if there was a family within? Answer, yes, under certain circumstances. Those being:

1.Said family is shooting at me. Like, for instance say, the mother and her children are sniping at me, or throwing grenades and bombs. Then yes, Id blow them to pieces.
2. Said family is in a building and harboring someone who is shooting at me, and doing nothign to either vacate the building, or prevent the sniper from shooting at me.
3. Woman or child has a strapped bomb on them, or is behaving in a manner that leaves little question that woman and child are going to try and harm me or my comerades.

Since I do not know the whole story behind many things reported, I can only speculate as to why certain things have happened. Thats why i say, there really arent any innocents. Stories can be spun to favor one side or the other. One must pick and choose carefully.

As a former soldier, i can say with confidence, US soldiers are no different from anyone else'sd army. Socipaths they are not, with rare exception, and those few who are crazy usually either get locked up, or killed by thier own fellow soldiers as a threat or a criminal. I have known many cases where someone began to get irrational or crazy, and some ill fate befll them.

I know very well what my govornment is like world wide. CIA I can fully believe is capable of outright murder for little cause. because they have certain factions within the CIA/NSA that are specifically mentally trained and broken to become cold blooded killers for little reason. US troops are not trained that way, we all recieve the same basic training. Only certain, smaller jobs, are they trained to be more ruthless. Most are simply trained to fight and kill an enemy.

In the heat of battle there is little time to pick and choose who is friend and foe. Anyone who is not with you is to be held suspect. Thats how war works. After the battle or fighting is over, or after the operation is over, does one have time to ponder the implications. But not beforhand. To do so means certain death if you waiver over the wrong enemy.

Thus, soldiers kill who they are told to do. When they kill, they trust the judgement of the order giver as sound. If thier captain tells them to kill someone, they will do it because they trust his judgement and information. If they are told to kill women and children, they will do so assuming the captian or whoever gives the order is doing so because he knows something they do not. Perhaps he sees they have weapons. Perhaps they have bombs.

If after the fact they have killed, and find the order has been given in error, or the captain is a sick sadistic #er who decided to give the order to kill women and kids simply because he didnt like the way they looked at him, thats another story. Then the troops, will either assasinate thier leader, or report him, or stay silent on the issue. Such things are dealt with differently.

But theres always two sides of the story. ALWAYS. US soldiers are no different from other troops. Every army or fighter have killed women and children. And for worse reasons. Even the very terrorists who use the death of women and children to prop up thier arguements would just as easily kill a woman or beat her for not dressing right, or a child for some other prupose.

I say again, no one is innocent. Blood is on everyones hands and face.

Most Americans cannot spell Iraq or find it on a map, let alone realize Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. So, thats another arguement for another day, really.