Hawaii is not legally a state/ Obamah is a usurper.

Although the information is old it may be new to many. The fact that Hawaii is not legally a state in America may have profound implecations on the birther movement.

Much has changed since 2003 and if Hawaii is not part of America where does that leave Obamah.

Perhaps this could be the smoking gun rather than the birth certificate.

whatreallyhappened.com...

Not sure if there has been an update on the state of Hawaii since this was published perhaps some one could advise.

Um, I thought It became a state in 1959 making it our 50th?

You have stumbled upon a tremendous conspiracy. All of the text books. The QUARTERS for Pete's sake. They made a FAKE QUARTER of this island that isn't even a state. The lengths they will go to to get someone in office.



Did the birth certificate thing run out of steam already? Although your ummm 'source' looks 'believable' enough...

Sorry. I'm not buying it. I think we're going to need more to back it up than a poorly done website.

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Great, this is a perfect example of what is wrong with the anti-Obama movement. There is no talk of whether his administration's policies are actually helping or hurting, only rhetoric claiming he is either a socialist, or not even a "real" American. Puh-lease... if you can't get any traction with the Kenyan BC hoax, maybe the Hawaii isn't a real State anyway tact with take with the people. Desperation rears it's ugly head.

If the talking heads that fuel your ignorance told you people that the Declaration of Independence was not a valid document therefore the USA isn't a real country, therefore Obama can't be President, I'm not sure, but I think some of you would actually believe it and post it here on ATS. You heard it here first folks.

I know the old saying about arguing on the internet, but this is beyond retarded. Please stop.

Source

Not a legal state huh?

~Keeper

Not to mention a perfect example of folk using the intrewebz as a simple copy/paste tool taking thought right out of the process.

hawaii.gov...

[edit on 17 Aug 2009 by schrodingers dog]

This might be a problem or a solution depending on how you look at it.

well i guess since hawaii isnt state he CANT be president. im going to washington right now to personally drag him out of the whitehouse!!!

what...?

this is a bs argument?

man...i thought this made TOTAL SENSE!

Aha!

But not a single state in the USA is a legitimate state in the first place!

Britain did not agree to this illegal revolution, and thus all Americans are actually illegals and all of these states actually belong to Britain, Spain, and France!

And if you delve even deeper into the vast conspiracy, it is actually the native American tribes that own it in the first place!

So indeed every single President since the Revolution are all usurpers and fakes!

En garde!

I think the problem is that many people in the US have a very difficult time with the notion that a Black man is running the country. Rather than accept this, learn that Obama's no different from anyone else, and move on, they have to invalidate his whole presidency. They want to be able to claim, "it never happened". Unfortunately, they waited too long.

All of this discussion would have been reasonable before the election, during the campaign - even during the Democratic primary. A single legitimate question then could have blown Obama right out of the water, and no on would ever have heard of him. But they didn't raise the question, because there was no question to raise. Obama is a natural born citizen, Hawaii is a state, and the Birthers are pretty much out of luck. Let's move on now.

Oh, yeah. As for the notion that Hawaii isn't "really" a state because the process of admitting it to statehood broke various laws and treaties - guess what? That same logic applies to *every* state. So if you insist that Obama step down, then you should also insist that each state's residents - the European ones, anyway - leave the country and go back to Europe. They're all illegal aliens. With the possible exception of Manhattan, this whole country was violently taken away from the people who were already here.

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Some one seems to have gone to a lot of trouble with the following which seems surprising if there was nothing in the story.

www.hawaiiankingdom.org...

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And everyone knows American elections are rigged anyway, and the real power behind the throne is the FED.

Touche!

How can anybody believe a word you say about President Obama when you can't even respect him enough to spell his name right?

You're obviously biased and angry.

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Your logic is infallible.

Muzzleflash for President! Well... provided he gets approval from the Native Americans....and the British...and Hawaii.

Maybe this 5-year-old-thread using the same source will help answer some of your questions.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

...just looking forward to the sixty two different versions of 'Hawaii is not a LEGAL STATE!!!' thread...

It reminds me of the state sovereignty thing... Alaska has a movement that is very similar...they get labeled nutjobs...Palin's husband was a member...just because a group of people doesn't agree with it, doesn't make it true...but I have to hand it to you, that was a LOT better looking site.

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Not a question of respect just forgot to check the spelling of his name, not being an American I probably don't see it as often in print as yourself.

Also I did ask if anyone knew anything about the question of Hawaii not being part of America not being familliar with it myself.

Do you really need someone else to point out whether his policies are working or not? The only thing that he's proven is that he can spend a sh*t - ton of our money, and get us nothing in return. Additionally, most "birthers" aren't that concerned with where he was born anyway. They're concerned about the fact that he's hiding his past. They're concerned because people like you don't think that a background check should be required for the highest office in the land.

And maybe read some of his policies, then look up socialism before you bring the subject up again. When government fingers, hold the strings for the banking, automotive, and soon to be health care industries, that's called socialism... on a bright and sunny day. When it's dark and gloomy, we call it fascism.

Look, I don't give a damn where he was born, or what color his skin is. The FACT of the matter, is that he is not qualified to lead this country, especially though the dire straights we're in now. The last thing we needed was an idealistic neophyte with a socialist agenda who's greatest skill is dividing the people. Not with double digit unemployment 2 wars and two other rouge states who want war.

aren't we trying to deny ignorance?How do we achieve that without asking questions?pigpen dog and koolaid you should know better.I respect all you guys but you are obviously getting exasperated with the anti obama crowd.But give the op a break,he is not the first to bring this up,just the first to challenge obama with it.Remember just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching.s+f

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spoken like a true racist.race has nothing to do with Hawaii's statehood.please try to keep race out of it(I know it's your best argument)but please try