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And I'm just wondering, this is asking all Americans, why do you defend a healthcare system that would kill you faster that you just taking your chances?
Originally posted by Guru97
I am new to ATS so I'll be brief with my question. Why is it that this healthcare reform is frowned upon by so many? Correct me if I'm wrong but Isn't this the same thing we offer Millions of our nations VETERANS? if it's good enough for them WHY NOT impliment the system to all Americans?
Originally posted by jd140
Originally posted by Guru97
I am new to ATS so I'll be brief with my question. Why is it that this healthcare reform is frowned upon by so many? Correct me if I'm wrong but Isn't this the same thing we offer Millions of our nations VETERANS? if it's good enough for them WHY NOT impliment the system to all Americans?
The military health care isn't that great.
I woke up one morning unable to move without feeling extreme pain. It took me an hour to get out of bed and put on a pair of shorts and a tshirt. I then called to get seen by a doctor and they told me I would have to wait 6 hours to see him and my best option would be to go to the emergency room.
It took another 15 minutes for my wife to help me down the stairs and into the car and another 15 minutes to drive 5 miles. She kept having to stop because the bumps in the road just about made me pass out.
We get to the emergency room and I waited 4 hours before I was shown to a room and another hour to have the doctor see me. I was then told I had to have x rays, which took another hour and once I was back in the room I was given a neck brace, shot of valium and a prescription for ranger candy (motrin).
So if you want our health care then you can have it. Just expect to be dissapointed and remember one thing.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Originally posted by The Killah29
Jeez, this is why I dislike America a lot, you listen to idiots like Beck, Hannity, Palin, and Limbaugh. I may not support Obama, but dudes, socialised medicine will help you yanks out. I'm from Canada and we've got the 6th or 7th best healthcare system in the world, while you've got the 37th. Yah sure 1 in 5 of us die, but that's a hell of a lot better that the 3 of 5 you guys have. This is one reason that he went to Canada first. He is copying our health and banking systems (though he's not doing so well with the banking part). The only reason people and politicians hate the bill is because they are being payed off by the insurance companies to talk slander about this health care reform, and you believe the babbling of idiots. There are no death pannels and you will not run out of medicine. You were all tricked by that retarded waste of space Sarah Palin. Has anyone seriously read the bill? If you've have you would support it. Sure your taxes may go up, but come on, isn't that a small price to pay for your health? your beinn beaten by France in health care, hell even Cuba treats it's people better that you guys. Do you seriously want to be beaten by them? You guys must be stupid to oppose this bill. You all wouldn't die cause the friggen insurence companies would have to pay for it and not back out like they always do and leave you holding the bag.
Originally posted by The Killah29
reply to post by inthesticks
Like i said in an earlyer post and that one, I never said that our healthcare system was perfect, but none are.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by MarshMallow_Snake
Well if Canadas health care system is imploding. Obama is trying to make US health care work like Canadas. Then all we need is for Mexico to sign on the deal and we have some of the groundwork for NAU. Just a thought. They want this done by October, what happens in October? Why the rush?
Originally posted by The Killah29
... Hell France has the best, but you guys don't want to admit that they have a better system than you cuz you guys think your the best in the world. I'm not saying that France has a perfect system either.
Originally posted by The Killah29
And I'm just wondering, this is asking all Americans, why do you defend a healthcare system that would kill you faster that you just taking your chances?
Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Two firms that received $343.3 million to handle advertising for Barack Obama’s White House run last year have profited from his top priority as president by taking on his push for health-care overhaul.
One is AKPD Message and Media, the Chicago-based firm headed by David Axelrod until he left last Dec. 31 to serve as a senior adviser to the president. Axelrod was Obama’s top campaign strategist and is now helping sell the health-care plan. The other firm is Washington-based GMMB Campaign Group, where partner Jim Margolis was also an Obama strategist.
This year, AKPD and GMMB received $12 million in advertising business from Healthy Economy Now, a coalition that includes the Washington-based Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America, known as PhRMA, that is seeking to build support for a health-care overhaul, said the coalition’s spokesman, Jeremy Van Ess.
Hiring Obama’s campaign advisers makes sense, said Julius Hobson, a senior policy adviser in the Washington office of the St. Louis-based law firm, Bryan Cave LLP.
“If you’re in support of the president, then you use the people he used,” said Hobson, 61, who teaches a graduate course in lobbying at George Washington University in Washington.
Coalition
HEN’s other members, according to its Web site, are the AARP, the biggest advocacy organization for retirees; the Advanced Medical Technology Association; the Business Roundtable; Families USA; the Service Employees International Union, all based in Washington, and the American Medical Association based in Chicago. PhRMA represents 28 drugmakers, including New York-based Pfizer Inc. and London-based GlaxoSmithKline Plc.