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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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SPREAD THE WORD!!!

Please sign this petition, it will be sent to your local representative:

AUDIT THE FED

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:04 PM
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It is important that we first AUDIT this quasi-government institution, that currently answers to NO ONE. Once the books have been opened, they will be exposed for the fraudsters they are, and then it will only be a matter of time before this whole crooked institution is ended.

Soon Ron Paul will add this great accomplishment to his resume.

Like Andrew Jackson before him:


When asked what his greatest accomplishment had been during his two terms as President, Andrew Jackson replied "I killed the Bank." He was talking about the "Second Bank of the United States", which was our country's second central bank.




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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I'm with you.

But what happens with we and the world find out the dollar is a sham and it's worthless.

We're F@#$!D.



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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We can replace it with gold, or another commodity which cannot be inflated like fiat currency. This should be relatively easy to do. I does not mean we have to physically carry gold everywhere when we make purchases. We can leave the gold in the banks, and the bank issue certificate notes, which can then be used as species in trade, and redeemable by gold or the other commodity which is selected.

This is how it was done before. Before government seized the gold, and took up the idea of creating money out of thin air.

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Do we even have any gold anymore? =)



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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By the way I forgot to mention another great effect once we get rid of fiat currency:

Once gold or another currency is selected, and all notes have to redeem gold ON DEMAND. Socialism or any type of government programs will have to be eliminated.

Why? Because government will not have the ENDLESS funds it currently enjoys when it can print up as much money as it wants...to pay for its ENDLESS WARS, and WELFARE PROGRAMS.

Programs will have to be payed for by money that cannot be printed out of thin AIR. Since politicians are hesitant to raise taxes......well that means...one thing...YOU CAN KISS THE WELFARE, WAREFARE STATE GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE!!

Thank you Ron....




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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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There is more GOLD in the FED Reserve Bank of NY, then there is in all of FORT KNOX. No shortage of gold there....

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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Good thread,glad to see this thing being kept up on the forefront. I've been wondering if this health care deal as bad as it appears is not just an effort to take the peoples attention away from the economy and this bill.
Its certainly doing that if that was part of the plan,bang we've moved on from the fraud recently foisted upon us to defending our freedom of choice in medical care. These people are slick and should not be underestimated.
Heres my delima,my representatives are already on board so what else can I do? Should we call representatives from other states and try and sway them? Where is the focus needed most now? Which representatives can we concentrate on? This thing needs to get veto proof because thats what Obama will do to it if its put before him.
Heres another link for those who want to see where their represntatives stand. www.ronpaul.com... If your representatives arent on board lets expose them here where we can all chisle at them.



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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by nickoli

Heres my delima,my representatives are already on board so what else can I do?
Awesome...good to hear your rep is on board. There are still things people can do. Like support the still going strong Campaign For Liberty movement. More specifically if you can you can support like minded candidates that also promote reducing the WELFARE WARFARE state. Like Peter Schiff, Rand Paul, or Adam Kokesh.




Should we call representatives from other states and try and sway them?
Sure...it wouldn't hurt, I suppose.




Where is the focus needed most now?
Follow the latest in formation on the Campaign For Liberty website on the newest developments.




This thing needs to get veto proof because thats what Obama will do to it if its put before him.
It's possible that OBAMA will veto this bill if its put on his desk. If he does VETO it though, he WILL EXPOSE HIMSELF to the American public about where his true loyalties lie. And it will be the deathblow for his administration. He's probably not coming back as it is anyway, since this depression is going to get far worse, because of the steps his administration has has taken, but if he DARES veto the bill, HE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE COMING BACK!!

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 11:28 PM
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Thanks for the links,I already have them but others here may not. I'm rather excited about Adam Kokesh would sure like to see more like him get involved. I guess all I can do for him is send him what little I can afford to as he isnt running in my state. There hasnt been much activity on his facebook site but I dont blame him there. I'm gonna drop facebook too. I dont support spying covertly on the people or compiling data on them without their consent or knowledge and I've heard too many bad things about facebook plus its rather lame even for my over the hill self.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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I agree, we must be careful about how the government spies on us. One thing about facebook, it does link you with like-minded people. And words spreads quick regarding any, new bills being sent through congress which curtain our civil as well as income liberties.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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What for?. Any audit will just be a whitewash like the 911 Commission was. The elite are never going to expose their crimes.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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Say we audit the fed. Who will do the audit? The gov? The same gov that's been selling us into chains for the past 60+years?

Say the audit is done. What happens should they find all sorts of corruption and fault? Will the gov come in an clean it up? The gov that essentially is the fed? Will the gove just disband it?

Say they find no corruption and no fault? Will anyone believe it? Will people just accept it and move on?

Unless you burn down anything and everything that is remotely "federal" absolutely nothing will come of this save a few choice panels and politicians putting more of our property into their pockets.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Gateway
By the way I forgot to mention another great effect once we get rid of fiat currency:

Once gold or another currency is selected, and all notes have to redeem gold ON DEMAND. Socialism or any type of government programs will have to be eliminated.

Why? Because government will not have the ENDLESS funds it currently enjoys when it can print up as much money as it wants...to pay for its ENDLESS WARS, and WELFARE PROGRAMS.

Programs will have to be payed for by money that cannot be printed out of thin AIR. Since politicians are hesitant to raise taxes......well that means...one thing...YOU CAN KISS THE WELFARE, WAREFARE STATE GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE!!

Thank you Ron....[edit on 13-8-2009 by Gateway]


Autowrench: Hear Hear! I have been saying this for years now! Without fiat money, all Black Projects that go against the American People will come to a screeching halt, along with the Fake Space Program, which seems to be bent on installing as many exotic weapons as can be built on the ISP. I think an America without the FRB will do just fine, it did before 1933, and trust me on this, ALL of the Gold is accounted for, sitting in vaults somewhere, but every ounce that has been taken from the ground since the days of the Pharaohs is still in existence. What we need is a Flat Tax (A Brief Guide to the Flat Tax www.heritage.org...) to fund the Confederation of States, the Republic of American States, whatever we want to call it.and everyone, including the president him/herself will have to pay the tax. No more tax loopholes, or tax shelters, or off shore tax free accounts. As a Consumer Tax Nation, we will attract business from all over the world, simply because America will be a Income Tax Free Nation. There is not one intelligent reason this plan would not work. The first step is, of course, Audit the Federal Reserve Bank, and all of it's lessor banks, on down to get them all. Expose this criminal, un-Constitutional Fiat monetary system for what it truly is...a giant fraud on the American People.

Rothschilds & Rockefellers, TRILLIONAIRES of the World
www.indybay.org...


Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838: "Give me
control of the economics of a country; and I care not who
makes her laws. The few who understand the system, will
either be so interested from its profits or so dependant on
its favors, that there will be no opposition from that
class". "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I
care not who makes its laws".


The Bankruptcy of The United States
www.apfn.net...


"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are
official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt
entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth
hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a
coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.


The Current Federal Court System - Why you get the run around, and XXXXXX in the end!
www.apfn.org...

The Model for Bush Globalization - The Roots of the Bush-Cheney's Oil Government
www.apfn.org...

Thanks to jackinthebox for this post...
Illegitimate Federal Government and the Rule of Martial Law in the United States
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Sad Story Of The Privately Owned Federal Reserve Bank
www.apfn.net...

Gold and Silver - Real Money
www.goldworth.com...

Billions for the Bankers, Debt for the People
The Real Story of the Money-Control Over America
www.jesus-is-savior.com...

Since the U.S. went bankrupt in 1933, all new money has to be borrowed into existence. All states started issuing serial-numbered, certificated "warehouse receipts" for births and marriages in order to pledge us as collateral against those loans and municipal bonds taken out with the Federal Reserve's banks. The "Full faith and Credit" of the American people is said to be that which back the nation's debt. That simply means the American people's ability to labor and pay back that debt. In order to catalog its laborers, the government needed an efficient, methodical system of tracking its property to that end. Humans today are looked upon merely as resources - "human resources," that is.

Governmental assignment of a dollar value to the heads of citizens began on July 14, 1862, when President Lincoln offered 6 percent interest bearing-bonds to states who freed their slaves on a "per head" basis. This practice of valuing (assigning an intrinsic value upon) the human population (cattle?) continues today with our current system of debt-based currency reliant upon a steady stream of fresh new chattels (Human Births) to back it. Lincoln did not "free the slaves," as you were taught in school, he made all of us slaves. Punishment for attempting to break free of the established power base

The time of the DRB and the Fiat Money System is just about over. So, Bankers, listen up; If you do not want to hang for High Treason, then you better come clean when this thing comes down, and tell the truth of the matter before Congress. Please support this effort in any way you can.

End the Fed? A not-so-crazy idea
news.yahoo.com...

Petition Websites - Audit the Federal Reserve
www.thepetitionsite.com...
www.wnd.com...

I won't continue talking about all the strange theories revolving around this institution. I'll just say simply, that it's a personal interest of mine. And, if you do some digging, maybe it'll be one of yours. I seriously think to fully understand the current financial crisis, you need to look at the Federal Reserve as the biggest part of the very large puzzle.



posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Say we audit the fed. Who will do the audit? The gov?
Good point. You have pointed out a "chink in the armor" as they say.

The GAO is not the most credible of institution to trust to report a thorough audit, but it is an audit at the very least. It's difficult to judge whether they'll find anything to begin with, but just judging by Ben Bernanke hesitance of the AUDIT, leads me to conclude that they WILL find something....




Say the audit is done. What happens should they find all sorts of corruption and fault? Will the gov come in an clean it up? The gov that essentially is the fed?
Well, let's say they do find something...my gut instinct says that they will. Once people or congressmen question the Federal Reserve system they will question the need for a CENTRAL BODY to dictate interest rates. THIS IS THE SECOND STEP. At this point, economists (Austrians) could be brought-in to show and argue that interest rates are best left for supply and demand to decide. Various arguments can be brought forth to show that previous interest rate manipulations, have only led to malinvestments and bubbles which have led to depressions. Another point that can be shown is the depreciation of the currency, since 1913. There is no other way in which currency can be so greatly depreciated, unless someone is printing fiat currency and diluting the purchasing power of it.




Will the gove just disband it?
Sure...anything is possible. It was eliminated by Andrew Jackson, and it can certainly be eliminated again.




Say they find no corruption and no fault?
This will be tough, for the FED sympathizers to prove. Especially since TRILLIONS of dollars have been given to foreign CENTRAL BANKS and institution. This is unexplainable and inexcusable...it goes beyond the reach of the U.S. constitution. This is why Bernanke is WORRIED.




Will anyone believe it? Will people just accept it and move on?
Remember, it is gradual steps to disband this institution. It takes time...first it needs to be exposed. Then the discussion about FREE markets and interest rates will have to be in the forefront.


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posted on Aug, 14 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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Autowrench, you are my type of American!!!




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