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Originally posted by Leveller
Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
First thing that should've happened when Saddam fell was local elections. That would have put everyone in the mood to cooperate.
What did the 10yr sanctions do to Saddam sitting in his palaces? Nothing. But they did kill a half a million Iraqi children.
It was impossible to set up local elections. Who were the electorate going to vote for? There was no opposition as Saddam had them all killed. It takes time for a political faction to formulate policies. Democratic states can't be formed over-night. To tell the truth, I even believe that the US is rushing the elections in Iraq. It's highly doubtful if the Iraqis themselves are able to take part in free and fair elections of any sort - let alone know what or whom they are voting for.
As for the sanctions? They didn't kill half a million Iraqi children. That's a total fallacy. Saddam was allowed as much food and medecine as he wanted. Instead, he embezzled the money that was given to him to pay for these items. Sure, the Oil for Food programme was as corrupt as hell from both sides but the fact is that he chose not to feed or treat his people. Saddam was solely responsible for the death of every Iraqi child - not the sanctions.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Fine. Go have your unholy war. This is still the same old tired war torn planet it has been since history recorded. New faces and new names but that's about it.
I'm not in a situation. I can get along in this silly society no matter what happens. Islamics taking over the world, come on.
Are we back to 9/11? The worst atrocity I've seen in my young life. I still feel the pain for those lost. Still wondering though, how 9 of the hijackers managed to escape certain doom and make it back to their homes with all flights being down in the U.S. I guess those were the 9 that went out for some lap dances. Allah couldn't let them get off that easy.
[Edited on 5-13-2004 by ShadowHasNoSource]
Unholy war? Did i or any Americans called for a "Jihad"?
I think you are a bit confused on who started this war and when.
This war has been raging for a very long time. Neither side is right. Jihad = holy war not unholy war. I was making a statement about the reality of any war, they are unholy.
BTW, your rethoric makes me think that you would rather let them attack us again, to you it doesn't seem to matter...
Is that just the default comeback when someone questions the official "conspiracy theory" of 19 Arab hijackers? No, it's not me that wants more people to die.
About Islamics taking the world.... First, that's what extremist islamics seem to want, wether they will achieve it or not has yet to be seen, but I believe we will take care of them if we keep true in the fight against terrorism. But the fact is that "they are willing to make more attacks like 9/11 and 3/11 to accomplish (or try to) their goals.
And Islamic extremists have the market cornered on wanting to take over the world if in fact that's what they want. Seems to be they are always calling for the U.S. and other countries to stop meddling in their affairs. But I'm sure that's just a cover for their plan to take over the world. And again, what does Iraq have to do with 9/11?
About 9 hijackers being able to escape you better provide reliable links, because i have heard and read so much crap and wild theories that i truly can't remember much about this.
Originally posted by Simon
or alternatively we can stop absorbing this whole "the world is now a very different place" "stay in your homes terrorists want to kill you" bull, continue opposing the war till our leaders see sense or we vote them out which we will, and then we can go back to our lives and forget about the whole stupid affair.
This isn't the only war going on the planet.
Bush and Blair want you to believe the world is a different place, that its us and them, that there is no hope unless we stand united against the enemy ( whoever the hell they are ) But its just spin.
ignore it, go live your life, there’s plenty of nice things out there to think about.
edit - looks like the clown beat me to it
[Edited on 12-5-2004 by Simon]