Aliens & Demons in the Bible.

I hope this may help in a way clarify more aout how things 'were' back then.
If you have read my other threads on the topic, I think this will give more answers and ofcourse more questions..

'' The time that Satan was cast out of heaven and fell to the Earth - is the time mankind is in during the creation of this Web Page. This passage of scripture, Revelations 12:8, contains a 2000 year gap in time.''

'' The concept of "Alien Visitors" that has seemingly been left out of most modern prophesy books, (With the exception of a few), must be addressed. This is an important issue, because the notion that there exists life on other planets can confront many fundamental beliefs. In the event that the existence of Alien life becomes fact, questions will arise as to the origin of life. Judging by the modern sociological perspective, orthodox Christianity will suffer a tremendous dilemma. ''

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The concept of "Alien Visitors" that has seemingly been left out of most modern prophesy books, (With the exception of a few), must be addressed. This is an important issue, because the notion that there exists life on other planets can confront many fundamental beliefs. In the event that the existence of Alien life becomes fact, questions will arise as to the origin of life. Judging by the modern sociological perspective, orthodox Christianity will suffer a tremendous dilemma.

There are two reasons why the information I have in this Web Page will help to defend against the deceptions that will plague the world in a time of open contact with an intelligent alien species. First of all, if people visiting this Web Page have read in advance that "Aliens" will come into contact with mankind in the near future, (which I firmly believe), and this actually comes to pass, then they hopefully will remember that I successfully predicted this event. This forewarning will act as a dormant seed that won’t fully sprout into growth until the fulfillment of this event comes to pass. People will hopefully think to themselves in that future time, "If the person that created this Web Page knew all this stuff was going to happen before it happened, then perhaps he was inspired of the Holy Spirit, and we should pay attention to what he has to say concerning this event." Secondly, the information I am sharing about aliens visiting the Earth in the end times isn’t something I came up with. This information is in the Bible, and I feel that it is the Spirit of the Lord that has revealed these passages of scripture to me.

The Bible has a great deal to say about Alien Visitors. It speaks of their existence in many places, and specifically mentions their alliance with Satan. It is my intention to clarify some of these scriptures so that this up and coming deception will be forewarned. Scripture clearly identified this grand deception long ago. I am simply highlighting those ancient prophesies.

There are two major clarifications that must be made about demons, and aliens, concerning what defines what they are. The facts that must be clarified are as follows:

1.Most people think that demons, (if they exist), are spiritual beings, and can’t assume physical form. Likewise, if aliens exist, they are physical beings.

2.Most people believe that demons are trapped in hell, whereas, if aliens exist, they are free to roam about in outer space, or possibly other dimensions, or planes of existence.

I will now start with assumption number 1. This distinction that divides aliens and demons is false. The fact of the matter is, demons can assume physical form. Actually, this is probably their natural state since they lost their former state of glory. The only reason they aren’t fully recognized in the world at the time this Web Page was created is because of the restraining power of the Holy Spirit that prevents them. Wars are occurring in the heavenly realms that are currently preventing them from doing so. Consider the 21 day war that was fought between the warning angels, and the Prince of darkness, in order for Gabriel to deliver his message to Daniel - Daniel 10:12-14 ...

Even though demons aren’t in the world they way they would like to be, they do penetrate this world sometimes, both physically, and spiritually. Alien abductions are cases of physical involvement. [What do I think about alien abductions? - Only the people that don’t call upon God’s divine help in true faith will God allow for demons to deal with directly in this manner - same rules as applied to demonic possession]. Of all the books I’ve read, and documentary shows I’ve seen about alien abductions, (quite a few), I’ve only read a single case study where a woman claimed to be a Christian, and prayed to God for help. What was the result? The aliens returned her to her home immediately.

The subject of the existence of God, and especially the name of JESUS, is mysteriously absent when reading books about people who claim to have been abducted by aliens. One would think that the name of Jesus would come up often in these cases, since people are being faced with supernatural terror they have no control over. I know if I were faced with such terrors, I wouldn’t do anything BUT pray, yet, I never read about this in alien abduction cases.

Scripture speaks of demons penetrating the world physically by interbreeding with humans, Genesis 6:4. Giants were the results of this demon spawn. Demonic interbreeding with humans didn’t end with the floods of Noah, though it characterized that period of time. There were giants in the world after the flood also. But as Jesus said in Matthew 24:37-39, the end times will be as the days of Noah were. If this is true, (which it is), then this open demonic interbreeding with humans will be occurring the way it was back then. Consider that the recurring theme in almost all alien abduction cases usually has something to do with tests, and reproductive experimentation.

'' If this interbreeding is still occurring, (as it states in Genesis 6:4, "In those days, and even afterwards…"), then why aren’t there giants in the world? Simple, the offspring between demons and humans now aren’t giants anymore. They look human now, but still have demonic DNA. The only difference between a demon spawn and a regular human might be found in certain key traits:

1.Inherently evil to an extreme degree - even at a young age.

2.People who are psychically gifted, especially if they don’t believe in Christ, and use their gifts for personal gain.

3.Highly intelligent, ambitious individuals with extreme selfish motives to achieve positions of power, wealth, and prestige.

4.Especially people that are demon possessed.

Genesis 6 gives proof to the fact that demons are physical beings. How could spiritual beings mate with physical humans? I will return to this controversial key passage of scripture several times throughout this Web Page.

Back in the days of Genesis chapter 6, the offspring between the "Sons of God" and human women were giants, (the Nephalim). Anyone who wants to say that "The Sons of God" were human, (sons of the line of Seth), are simply wrong, because people don’t have babies that just happen to turn out to be giants! The "Sons of God" mentioned in Genesis chapter 6 were GENETICALLY DIFFERENT than humans. They not only were giants, but they were also inherently evil. Why? Because their progenitors were satanic beings, not descendants from a glorified line of godly men, (as those who take the argument that the "Sons of God" are descendants from the line of Seth).

Satan’s tactic back in the days of Noah was to take over the world by physical brute force through interbreeding with humans, and creating a master race of giants. Also included in this interbreeding was the plan to corrupt the human genetic code, so that the Messiah couldn’t be born. The plan almost worked. Probably if it wasn't for the flood of Noah, the overwhelming population of giants would have taken over the Earth. I know this all sounds too fantastic, but read Genesis chapter 6, and make your own conclusions. This is a very bizarre chapter indeed! ''

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Sigils, Magick, and The Ancient Alien Torah

Since Sigil Magick is generally considered Will Magick rather than Spiritual Magick or Nature Magick, the goal of sigil usage is to mobilize your unconscious mind towards accomplishing the desires of your conscious mind.

Your unconscious mind, while extremely powerful, only understands symbols sent to it from your conscious mind. It does not understand what we would consider simple and straight forward communication. Hence, the need for sigils which are really just combinations of the letters in your statement of intent (minus repeated letters, state of being verbs: is, are, etc. and any vowels).

There are many ways to use the sigils. Common methods of usage include meditating on them and then burning, burying or destroying them in some other way so that they can pass from your conscious mind into your unconscious mind. There the instructions built into their design are decoded and followed.

The Meru Project has discovered an extraordinary and unexpected geometric metaphor in the letter-sequence of the Hebrew text of Genesis that underlies and is held in common by the spiritual traditions of the ancient world. This metaphor models embryonic growth and self-organization. It applies to all whole systems, including those as seemingly diverse as meditational practices and the mathematics fundamental to physics and cosmology...Meru Project findings demonstrate that the relationship between physical theory and consciousness, expressed in explicit geometric metaphor, was understood and developed several thousand years ago.

A living breathing language. Eons beyond the capabilities of human based Magickal practices.. as they are from our alien brothers, and perhaps our creators.

Here is a more 'earthbound' spin to this topic.

What does the Bible say about intelligent life on other planets?

The question of UFO's and intelligent life on other planets has become very popular. Many fashionable scientists speculate about the possibilities, insisting that we cannot be alone in the universe. Alien life is the subject of hit television shows and movies, and is also a common belief of many New Age religions. Many people have asked what the Bible has to say about this subject. The following article is an attempt to deal honestly and simply with this subject and to answer the question in an easily understood manner. It is not meant to be an exhaustive or comprehensive theological treatise.

The Scriptures do not directly address the question of alien beings. The Bible does not explicitly confirm or deny the existence of intelligent life from other planets. Although the subject is not addressed explicitly, the Bible teaches implicitly that the only things He created with intelligence are the angels, man, and the animals.

It is important to remember that the stars and planets were not created billions of years before Earth. According to the Bible, Earth is not the result of billions of years of stellar evolution during which many other planets were created. Earth was created before any other planet or star existed. Earth came into existence on the first day of Creation (Genesis 1:1). God withheld the creation of the Sun, Moon and stars until the fourth day (Genesis 1:14-19). Earth is unique and holds center stage in God's Creation.

Furthermore, the Bible clearly indicates that the fate of the universe (every other planet and star) is forever linked to God's timetable for mankind and the Earth. One day, Christ will return to Earth and complete the final act of man's redemption (2 Peter 3:9-10). He will destroy this present universe and create a new heavens and Earth (2 Peter 3:7,10; Revelations 21:1). All the stars and planets will be destroyed, along with the Earth.

What bearing does this have on the question of extraterrestrial life? The timetable (and the whole reason) for this destruction and re-creation clearly seems to be based on God's plan for us Earthlings. If God had created intelligent life on other worlds, it is hard to imagine that their lives would be calibrated by the failures of Earth's inhabitants. It seems unlikely and unfair that their distant planets would be destroyed by God because of His plan for Earth. The implication of Scripture is that there are no other intelligent beings besides man, animals, and the angels.

Why will God destroy the planets and stars along with Earth? When Adam sinned, ALL of creation was affected—the entire universe. Romans 8:18-22 teaches that all “creation was subjected to futility.” Although we are all familiar with the fact that God made man the ruler of Earth (Genesis 1:28), Scripture suggests that even the heavens are subject to mankind.

“Thy heavens, the work of the Thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which Thou has ordained…Thou dost make him [man] to rule over the works of Thy hands, Thou has put all things under his feet” (Psalms 8:3,6).

“And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the Lord your God has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage” (Deuteronomy 4:19).

Practical experience suggests that nothing in the universe is probably in its more perfect, originally created state. Earth is certainly no longer the paradise described in Genesis. Stars are dying. The moon and planets have been pummeled. It seems that everything in the universe will eventually wear out.

Why would God create such a vast universe if it is only for those on the planet Earth? What purpose does the universe hold? Frankly, God has not revealed all the answers, but he has shared at least some of the reasons:

LIGHT, TIME-KEEPING AND NAVIGATION. Scripture tells us that God created the Sun, Moon and stars to give light (brightening the utter darkness of the night sky) and to assist mankind (Genesis 1:14-15, etc.). That's right, one of the reasons that God made the Moon, solar system and stars was to provide a way for us to distinguish the passage of time (days, months and years) and predict the coming of seasons. Without these heavenly bodies, the job of keeping time and navigation would have been far more difficult. We learn from history that from the earliest days, ancient peoples used the movement of stars in producing their calendars and finding their way across great distances, just as God designed from the beginning. It may be that even some migrating birds make use of the constellations.
GLORIFYING THE CREATOR. Another purpose for the myriad of stars is to bring glory to God—focusing man's attention on the Creator's awesome power and greatness. Psalm 19:1 states,

“The heavens are telling of the glory of God; and their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.”

The vastness of the universe is a tremendous expression of God's might and power. God is greater than we could ever imagine, even greater that His spectacular creation, the universe. Psalm 8:1,3,9 states,

“O Lord, our Lord, How majestic is Thy name in all the earth, Who hast displayed Thy splendor above the heavens! …When I consider Thy heavens, the work of Thy fingers, The moon and the stars, which Thou has ordained; …O Lord, our Lord, How majestic is Thy name in all the earth!”

When we consider the vastness of the universe, let us meditate upon the glory of God, not on dreaming up fantasies of alien beings.

The Bible does not teach that intelligent life exists elsewhere in our universe. Although our all-powerful God could have created such life had He desired, it seems rather obvious from Scripture that He did not. The timetable for this present universe is measured by God's dealings with us. It appears that God has created the human race, on the planet called Earth, as the sole beneficiary of His fellowship. This fellowship is of such a unique design that we are told that God's only true extra-terrestrial creations—angels—are eager to observe it in action. It is our privilege to be the center of attention in our vast and wonder-filled universe.

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Aliens mentioned In the Quran...

Introduction
On 7th August 1996,NASA (1) scientists made an announcement that made front page headlines throughout the world.Within a Martian meteorite,they had found evidence of a microscopic lifeform that may have existed on Mars more than three billion years ago. (2) Although other studies were later published which challenged this conclusion, (3) numerous recent discoveries,for example,the discovery by the Galileo spacecraft, (4) in February 1997,of a possible red-coloured sea under the ice crust of Jupiter's moon,Europa, (5) are raising hopes that we may soon be able to get an answer to one of the oldest and most interesting questions asked by humans-"Is anyone out there,or are we alone in the universe?"

However,it may be that none of us may live to see the day when scientists will give us a definitive answer to this question.For Muslims,that should not be a problem.We already have the answer.Although many Muslims are unaware of the fact,the Quran (6) explicitly mentions the existence of extraterrestrial life.

The existence of creatures of a spiritual nature,such as angels,in the universe,is accepted as a fact by all Muslims,as well as people of other religions, such as Christians.The point that generates excitement among the public,and scientists is the question of whether material lifeforms like ourselves,which can be found by science,do actually exist outside the earth. (7) The objective of this article is to present evidence from the Quran for the existence in the universe,of MATERIAL lifeforms ("Life as we know it").

"Dabbatun"
In Sura 42,Verse 29 (42:29) of the Quran,we are told, "Among His (God's) signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth,and the living creatures that He has scattered through them :and He has power to gather them together when He wills." (8) Before proceeding further,a point or two must be noted.The word "sama",translated "heavens",is also the Arabic for "sky".One may object that the verse refers to creatures in the sky (which would be birds),not in the heavens.However,birds are mentioned seperately from creatures of the heavens in 24:41, "Seest thou not that it is God Whose praise all beings in the heavens and on earth do celebrate,and the birds (of the air) with wings outspread?..." (9) In a note to 42;29,Muhammad Asad states,"In the Quran,the expression "the heavens and earth" invariably denotes the universe in its entireity." (10) The Quran mentions that inanimate objects also worship God:"Do they not look at God's creation, (even) among (inanimate) things- how their (very) shadows turn round,from right to left,prostrating themselves to God..."(16:48). (11) Therefore,may not the creatures spoken of in 42:29 in the heavens,be inanimate creatures of God.No.The next verse,16:49 goes, "And to God doth obeisance all that is in the heavens and earth,whether moving (living) creatures or the angels...". (12) The word translated "living creatures" here is the same as that in 42:29- "Dabbatun".Comments Asad,"The word dabbah denotes any sentient,corporeal being capable of spontaneous movement and is contrasted here with the non-corporeal,spiritual beings designated as "angels" ". (13) In other words,42:29 is referring to precisely the type of lifeforms that science is searching for,not some metaphysical entities.Yusuf Ali says,"Dabbatun:beasts,living,crawling creatures of all kind." (14) This is the same word used in 2:164,"...in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth...are signs for a people that are wise," (15) and in 24:45,"And God has created every animal from waterf them are some that creep on their bellies;some that walk on two legs;and some that walk on four. God creates what he wills..." (16) Commenting on 42:29,Allama Shabbir Ahmad Usmani says,"From the verse it appears that like on the earth,there are some kinds of animals- living creatures- in the heavens also." (17) On the same verse,Yusuf Ali comments, "Life is not confined to our one little Planet.It is a very old speculation to imagine some life like human life on the planet Mars...it is reasonable to suppose that Life in some form or other is scattered through some of the millions of heavenly bodies scattered through space." (18) From such remarks,the reader will realize that Muslim scholars are well aware of the fact that 42:29 clearly mentions the existence of aliens.

Is there any alien intelligent life ?
Although the discovery of any form of life outside the earth would be dramatic,humankind is especially interested in knowing whether there is any alien intelligent life in the universe.NASA previously had a program on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI).Although now scrapped due to budget cuts, private SETI organizations (19) have now been made which continue the search.The Planetary Society, (20) a private organization,in which the film director Steven Speilberg (21) is a member of the Board of Directors,has the largest SETI program in the world.So far, no sign of alien intelligent life has turned up.Can the Quran provide an answer?

Sura 27:65 commands,"Say:None in the heavens or on earth, except God,knows what is hidden:nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgement)." (22) This shows that,like humans,there are other creatures in the universe that will also be raised from the dead.We are told in 19:93-96,"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (God) Most Gracious as a servant.He does take an account of them (all),and hath numbered them (all) exactly.And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgement.On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love." (23) From these verses we learn that there are alien lifeforms that,like us,will also be judged according to the works that they do during their lives.Among them are the believers.Therefore,naturally,there will also be those aliens who are unbelievers.The believers will be rewarded.The lifeforms being descibed in the above verses can hardly be expected to be microorganisms.The Quran is referring to creatures of a level of development that makes them morally accountable beings.They must be organisms possessing qualities which we would ascribe to intelligent lifeforms.

In Sura 72:14-15,jinn (a type of spiritual lifeform,which the Quran mention as living on the earth) say,"Amongst us are some that submit their wills (to God),and some that swerve from justice.Now those who submit their wills- they have sought out (the path) of right conduct:But those who swerve- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire." (24) The Quran mentions that good jinn will be rewarded with Paradise.Summing up from all the above verses,it is clear that Judgement Day is for creatures in the whole universe (Sura 39:68-"The Trumpet will (just) be sounded when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please God (to exempt).Then will a second one be sounded,when,behold,they will be standing and looking on!") (25) and like jinn,aliens will also be sharing Paradise and Hell with humans.In fact,the Quran mentions that Paradise is of a size like that of our present universe- 57:21,"Therefore (vie) with one another for the pardon of your Lord,and for a Paradise as vast as heaven and earh, prepared for those who believe in Allah and His apostles." (26) Therefore, it is not surprising that when we are sharing this universe with aliens,we should share Paradise and Hell with them too.The Quran shows us,therefore,that not only do aliens exist,but among them are also intelligent beings.

Where can aliens be found?
Knowing that aliens,including intelligent lifeforms exist elsewhere, our next question would be,"Where do they live?"Scientists naturally expect them to live on planets.They look for other planets around other stars- planets that have the right conditions to harbour life- in other words,other earths.In October 1995,scientists announced the discovery of the first extrasolar planet around the star 51 Pegasi. (27) Since then,there have been a string of discoveries of other planets.At the time of writing of this article,fifteen planets have been claimed to have been discovered. (28) Although some of these objects have been dismissed as brown dwarfs (including the object around Pegasi 51) by some scientists, (29) at least some of the fifteen objects are agreed upon as being planets.Scientists believe that on potential moons around planets found to be orbiting two stars, the right conditions may exist for life to be present. (30)

Here is an interpretation of Ezekiels Wheel..

EZEKIEL'S WHEEL
SPACESHIP OR STARGATE?

Ezekiel Chapter One is one of the most puzzling and amazing and chapters in all of The Bible. The prophet Ezekiel clearly has a "close encounter" with something "extra-terrestrial", from a technology "not of this world."

Many Christians and their Pastors are literally terrified of Ezekiel One as it suggests that "God came to Ezekiel in a "Spaceship". Although this is not a cause to fear, it does raises the question, "Why does God need a spaceship?" This question opens the door for New Agers and others to step up and tell us that, "YHWH GOD of The Bible has a spaceship because he is an Extra-Terrestrial, an Alien Space Traveler and not "God" at all!"

What is The Truth? What did Ezekiel really encounter? Let's read what Ezekiel saw and more important, what he wrote."

Ezekiel chapter One

1Now it came about in the thirtieth
year, on the fifth day of the fourth
month, while I was by the river Chebar
among the exiles, the heavens were
opened and I saw visions of God.

2 On the fifth of the month in the
fifth year of King Jehoiachin's exile,
3 the word of the LORD came expressly
to Ezekiel the priest, son of Buzi,
in the land of the Chaldeans by the
river Chebar; and there the hand of
the LORD came upon him.)

As I looked, behold, a whirl-
wind was coming from the north,
a great cloud with fire flashing
forth continually and a bright
light around it, and in its midst
something like glowing metal in
the midst of the fire.

5 Within it there were figures
resembling (J)four living beings
And this was their appearance:
they had human (K)form.

13 In the midst of the living
beings there was something that
looked like burning coals of
fire, like torches darting back
and forth among the living beings.
The fire was bright, and lightning
was flashing from the fire.

15 Now as I looked at the
living beings, behold, there was
one wheel on the earth beside the
living beings, for each of the four

16 The appearance of the
wheels and their workmanship was
like sparkling beryl, and all four
of them had the same form, their
appearance and workmanship being as
if one wheel were within another wheel

25 And there came a voice from
above the expanse that was over
their heads; whenever they stood still,
they dropped their wings.

26 Now above the expanse that
was over their heads there was
something resembling a throne,
like lapis lazuli in appearance;
and on that which resembled a
throne, high up, was a figure with
the appearance of a man.

27 Then I noticed from the
appearance of His loins and upward
something like glowing metal that
looked like fire all around within
it, and from the appearance of His
loins and downward I saw something
like fire; and there was a radiance
around Him.

28 As the appearance of the
rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day,
so was the appearance of the
surrounding radiance such was the
appearance of the likeness of the
glory of the LORD And when I saw it,
I fell on my face and heard
a voice speaking.

Does it seems to you that Ezekiel is seeing a physical Spaceship? With revolving lights and fire from retro burners?

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Wow! That is an enormous amount of information to swallow! I like it though. I don't know if what Ezekiel saw was a spaceship. It could've been. I believe we should focus on the message of what Ezekiel recieved. If it was from aliens then they sure have our best interest at heart. Star and flag for the comprehensive research you have put into this. Well done.

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I was thinking about the thread that was here some time ago, stargates in the quaran , and thought maybe there were more pointing to this.

When I read the ezekiel discription of what he saw, I was seeing the four elements you know, same with the baphomet of the Masons, four elements.

Here is an consept art of the wheel, I like watching and ponder on this things, was it like that, or what else could it be..

reply to post by ChemBreather


That is an awesome idea of what he may have seen. I must admit that the description in the Bible is very conducive to an alien craft. The message he received from them though, what was it?

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Ezekiels Message to us KJV

GOD TELLS EZEKIEL TO SPEAK TO ISRAEL


And He said to me, Son of man, I send you to the children of
Israel.....verse 3-7.

[edit on 26/7/2009 by ChemBreather]

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Alright that is a start. Do you know what the message these creatures had for Israel? Could it be that Israel received some sort of instruction from alien beings?

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I personally do not believe in extraterrestrials. I believe there is a chance they do exist, but if so i believe they might not be by any means intelligent; maybe unicellular organisms, or a form of bacteria, but certainly no humanoid figures in crafts.

Now, angels and demons on the other hand, they do exist. The Bible is full of stories of these "extra terrestrial" beings. Also, the interbreeding of demons and humans, said to produce Nephilim, or giants, in the days preceding the flood, may indeed be true. However, in Matthew 24, when he states that the end times will be like those preceding the flood, i believe he is referring to the sin of mankind rather than the radically less frequent unions of man and spirit.

I hate to burst peoples' bubbles, but i dont believe that demons will walk the earth again in the end times. At least, not in a physical, 3 dimensional sense.