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This is very elementary. If you read any text of the early Fathers, any of the early Lives of Saints or the Lausiac History, you find many cases where beings suddenly appear. Nowadays they appear in spaceships because that's how the demons have adapted themselves to the people of the times; but if you understand how spiritual deception works and what kind of wiles the devil has, then you have no problems in understanding what's going on with these flying saucers.
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Originally posted by cosmicpixie
reply to post by truthofyah12
Thank for all the effort that went into posting all of that.
If you are not Christian then what is your view on the so called "good guys", the ones who come to wipe out all the ungodly and establish the kingdom...are they really "good guys" in your personal opinion ?
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
If satan and all his demons can turn into anything they wish, then why have they waited, they could turn into a god and take over...isnt it ridiculous to believe in "warring gods"? Its like a comic book! And we are stuck in the middle of THEIR war? For what? No one has ever died and came back to tell us what is really there..so no one knows. The christian aspect is just so tiring.
(1)It seems a whole lot of Christians view UFOs and ETs as being the fallen angels/workers of Satan. Given Satan mimicks Jesus in many ways, could one presume Jesus and his soldiers themselves fly around in UFOs and that the second coming will see Jesus and his fleet of ships in the sky ? So that the "false second coming " and the "real" second coming both involve UFOs....
(2)Also, in Revelations, the second coming describes Jesus and his heavenly army coming in the skies and waging war on the unfaithful and ruling with an iron fist.....and somewhere else we read how Jesus "comes in the clouds" ...so taking into account the first part of my question does this indicate that Jesus's UFO fleet attacks the people on earth in some way ??? But kills only those who DON'T have the seal of God on their forehead , perhaps through using some sort of advanced weapon that can distinguish between the godly/sealed and ungodly/not sealed.
(3)Going back to the UFOs are occupied by demons issue....nowhere in scripture is there mention of some sort of attack on humans from ships/beings from the sky outside of the battle mentioned in respect of Jesus's second coming, so if there is to be a FALSE second coming then there won't be some alien attack by the fallen angels...which would make sense as they will be here to try and win mankind over, which they would hardly be able to do if they were attacking Earth .
How do you, as a Christian, things ? Thanks in advance for your thoughts
Originally posted by Truth_Valor
But consider that in Revelation animals have symbolism.Not only do you have horses , but also The Lamb, and what about the beasts like the leopard.They are symbolic. And they are not just horses but white horses. That's symbolic.You can't forget about the fire of the Lord and his chariots of fire. And the clouds of glory.
Originally posted by cosmicpixie
I'm not a Christian myself but have a few questions for the Christians here...
(1)It seems a whole lot of Christians view UFOs and ETs as being the fallen angels/workers of Satan. Given Satan mimicks Jesus in many ways, could one presume Jesus and his soldiers themselves fly around in UFOs and that the second coming will see Jesus and his fleet of ships in the sky ? So that the "false second coming " and the "real" second coming both involve UFOs....
(2)Also, in Revelations, the second coming describes Jesus and his heavenly army coming in the skies and waging war on the unfaithful and ruling with an iron fist.....and somewhere else we read how Jesus "comes in the clouds" ...so taking into account the first part of my question does this indicate that Jesus's UFO fleet attacks the people on earth in some way ??? But kills only those who DON'T have the seal of God on their forehead , perhaps through using some sort of advanced weapon that can distinguish between the godly/sealed and ungodly/not sealed.
(3)Going back to the UFOs are occupied by demons issue....nowhere in scripture is there mention of some sort of attack on humans from ships/beings from the sky outside of the battle mentioned in respect of Jesus's second coming, so if there is to be a FALSE second coming then there won't be some alien attack by the fallen angels...which would make sense as they will be here to try and win mankind over, which they would hardly be able to do if they were attacking Earth .
Let's look at it logically....the UFO-Demons have been here in ever increasing numbers for 60 years. They are obviously trying to win mans trust so it seems more logical that when they fully reveal themselves to the world in the guise of "the second coming" that they will remain benign on the surface and not attack .... does this make sense to you as a Christian ? Scripturally you are not warned of Satan and his side kicks waging any kind of war from the skies in ships (as far as I know and I've read a fair bit of prophecy)so you can't be expecting some sort of UFO attack from his lot ?
How do you, as a Christian, things ? Thanks in advance for your thoughts
When every one had departed from the temple, the priests closed the temple and went away. Then Abraham took the axe and cut off the feet of all the idols, except the great god Baal. At its feet he placed the axe, amid the ruins which the statues made, for they, through being old and composed of pieces, fell in pieces. Thereupon, Abraham, going forth from the temple, was seen by certain men, who suspected him of having gone to thieve something from the temple. So they laid hold on him, and having arrived at the temple, when they saw their gods so broken in pieces, they cried out with lamentation: "Come quickly, O men, and let us slay him who bath slain our gods!" There ran together there about ten thousand men, with the priests, and questioned Abraham of the reason why he had destroyed their gods.
Abraham answered: "Ye are foolish! Shall then a man slay God? It is the great God that bath slain them. See you not that axe which he bath near his feet? Certain it is that he desireth no fellows."
'Then arrived there the father of Abraham, who, mindful of the many discourses of Abraham against their gods, and recognizing the axe wherewith Abraham had broken in pieces the idols, cried out: "It bath been this traitor of a son of mine, who bath slain our gods! for this axe is mine." And he recounted to them all that had passed between him and his son.
'Accordingly the men collected a great quantity of wood, and having bound Abraham's hands and feet put him upon the wood, and put fire underneath.
'Lo' God, through his angel, commanded the fire that it should not burn Abraham his servant. The fire blazed up with great fury, and burned about two thousand men of those who had condemned Abraham to death. Abraham verily found himself free, being carried by the angel of God near to the house of his father, without seeing who carried him; and thus Abraham escaped death.'