Was Saddam a brutal dictator for a reason?, page 2

I want to start this out with a nice picture check out the video too. www.gwu.edu...
HMM whos that mystery man. Thats 1983 you said saddams been murdering since 1967 hmmm...

Thank you ace of bass and special asian x. Amnesty international is kinda hard to argue against huh. What happened to and I quote agent 47 "If you can give an unbiased tally that is above or at 10,000 then I retract my statements." Hmm wheres that retraction? Remember these arent soldiers this is just the civlian toll. Not counting wounded.

Now you like to say that the baath party slaughtered millions. These people have been fighting basically a private civil war for decades. Its a power struggle and some are gonna lose. Armed religious groups have been trying to take control for decades. Whos responsible for their deaths. Them I think. You fight against your government and you might get killed.

Like asianx says when you have as many people in iraq as there are armed to the teeth struggling for power there are going to be consequences.

What do you think would happen if a large group of people armed themselves and tried to take over our government? Think it would be bloody. I think so. Our government keeps us in control with the fear of imprisonment(mental torture), Execution, Monetary Fines, and Physical Labor. I've said saddam did many terrible things. But at least he kept the country in control. He took it farther than he should many times I'm sure. But if you live in a society with strict laws with strict punishment I think I would be good don't you?

Heres links to executions since 1976 when the death penalty was reinstated.
www.clarkprosecutor.org... That is 907 people.

Also the u.s. has averged 373 police killings a year since 1976 which is around 10,000 people. Theres is no database on this as shown by a former ny times article shown here.
www.commondreams.org...

As of the end of 2002 there were over 2,033,331 prisoners that were held in Federal or State prisons or in local jails. www.ojp.usdoj.gov...
I can't find any info on deaths in prisons and abuse and such cuz the iraqi prison thing has clogged the search engines but I am sure it's signifigant.

Now is it clear that to keep a society in check a certain amount of evil is required. When a society has super radical islamic extremists fighting for any control they can muster. It's these extremist religion that calls for many deaths in the first place.

Heres an article about u.s. and other companies providing iraq with chemicals.
www.cnn.com...
So now lets think if saddams bathist regime has been slaughtering millions since 1967 don't you feel the u.s. is responsible for allowing the export of these chemicals. Hmmm....

Are we responsible for putting saddam in power? Heres a Congressional record written by a senator. Congressional Record: September 20, 2002 (Senate)
Page S8987-S8998
www.fas.org...

Are our former leaders and some present responsible also. Yes. I'm sure of it. Who's the real bad guy here. I think if you allow such wrongdoing go on and help someone do so much wrong a peacefull soltuion is a must. Like many have said let them make their own government. They don't want us there.

[Edited on 14-5-2004 by Hoppinmad1]

[Edited on 14-5-2004 by Hoppinmad1]