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Bizarre cross cloud formation


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Topic started on 5-7-2009 @ 05:00 AM by mattguy404


Hey guys. Haven't posted on ATS for a long time, but this caught my eye tonight:




I thought one of the weather buffs might know what sort of formation this could be? I'm definitely not crying "chemtrail!" but this is something I haven't seen before, or at least the first time I've taken notice of it.

They seemed rather low in the sky, lower than that would be formed by aircraft engines.

You can't tell by the pic (most of it is hidden by a tree) but they actually stretched for a fair while across the sky.




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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 05:21 AM by dallas18


I have seen something similar here in Brisbane before. I'm no expert but I would say its chemtrail related



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 07:26 AM by weedwhacker


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I have seen something similar many, many times as well.

Airplane contrails.

Jet airplanes. Flying overhead, high altitude. Leave contrails behind, sometimes (but not always, depends on atmospheric conditions at the time).



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 08:19 AM by woodwardjnr


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But have jet contrails always behaved like that because they do look different to usual contrails that just disappear behind the jet. Do we just notice it more because the increase in air traffic?



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 09:02 AM by weedwhacker


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Contrails have always 'behaved' the same...with the proviso that more modern high-bypass turbofan engines tend to produce more long-lasting contrails. ALSO, it depends entirely on the relative humidity in the airmass at the moment the contrail is formed. Just as clouds don't form in very dry air, or form and evaporate quickly. Watch some time-lapsed videos of clouds, you can see them form and evaporate...

Here's one example....clouds. But, a contrail is really just an artificially formed cloud...


YouTube Link


The OP's photo is artfull...looks like the Moon illuminating the contrails. AND you can plainly see they are contrails, as one passes over the other. They were formed at different altitudes.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 12:29 PM by Sentry-


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That looks awesome, but looking at your avatar im not so sure I can believe you. :\ I mean, this isn't like a UFO going fast across the sky so you can only capture an image or perhaps two, this is a cloud which should stay there for at least 10 minutes, but you only took a single photo? Perhaps I am looking too much into it, but honestly I personally find it suspicious especially regarding your avatar.

Cool if real though.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 12:58 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


Its funny because a few weeks ago I was fishing at a local spot and as we were starting to pack up to leave I looked up to the sky and saw a cross, infact 2 crosses ( I will leave it up to you to decide whether you think they may be chemtrails or contrails )
Straight away I got my camera phone out and began to take some pictures of it, actually I think they are very good pic's as the weather conditions were good.

When I got home I uploaded them onto my laptop and noticed something strange in one of the trails so I zoomed in and messed about with contrast/brightness etc and saved it. There are also other anomoly's in the pictures too but this is by far the best for clarity and strangeness!

When my children are settled for the night I will come back and post 5 picture's and the zoomed in one.
I would love to know what you think this thing could be that I have captured and I will share with you what I think it may be!

Interesting thread by the way and what on earth have I managed to capture?!

Be back in an hour or so......

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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:02 PM by boaby_phet


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same, i have seen these soooooooo much , summertime seems best for them as they can hang about in the sky for ages.

the sky is really busy round this way, so theirs always tons of trails of all sizes, size from what ive seen depends on how long the trail lasts, ive seen some sit for hours as they just seem to swell and eventualy seem to get so big that they turn into clouds , or at least thats what it looks like.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:35 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


I have added the picture's, please could you take a look and let me know what you think

Here is the link ( if I have done it correctly :-) ) [url=http://media.abovetopsecret.com/my_pictures&action=list_photos&album_id=6226]

Damn, trying to fix the link not sure how?

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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:45 PM by Essan


Common or garden contrails - caused by the fact that there are more than 2 airports in the world




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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:47 PM by weedwhacker


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[url=http://media.abovetopsecret.com/my_pictures&action=list_photos&album_id=6226]

You typed the above. I'm no whiz in the computer, but if you remove the "[url=" at the front and the "]" at the end, it takes you to ATS media...but there's nothing in there except the title of your photos.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:50 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


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Im sorry, working on it now.

Do I have to do a link to each individual picture then?



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:51 PM by weedwhacker


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I think it creates an album...but I don't use that feature much.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:52 PM by greeneyedleo


Originally posted by Beauty_HairyBeast
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Im sorry, working on it now.

Do I have to do a link to each individual picture then?


Click on the picture in your gallery and copy the [ atsimg] code

Yes a link (code) for each picture

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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:58 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


Would it be easier to just say go and take a look at the pictures on my profile that has pics of crosses in the sky?
Im obviously not as computer savvy as I thought but I am really tired! :-)



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:04 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


Ok lets try again










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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:08 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast






Finally! lol

Thankyou Greeneyedleo for your help, my head is a bit fuzzy today



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:13 PM by Beauty_HairyBeast


Ok, it's not a good day for me today, so the last picture is a silly size and the other picture's are not showing the whole scene so I guess they are too big!
Maybe you guys can make a copy of the 1st picture I posted and zoom in for yourselves?



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:14 PM by weedwhacker


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Success!!!

Those are remarkably similar to Essan's up above....you two may be neighbours!!!

Beauty, yours are different because of the setting sun, lighting them up.



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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:16 PM by pop_science


Just like has been said before it just looks like two planes that have crossed paths at some point crossing their contrails or chemtrail to cross, whatever floats your boat.

I've seen it where the sky looks like a checker board just google "chemtrail/contrail checkerboard".
It's really nothing unusual.



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