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Topic started on 5-5-2004 @ 09:56 PM by Colonel


WASHINGTON POST PLANNING TO UNLEASH MORE PRISONER ABUSE PHOTOS, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE... DEVELOPING...

The pictures obtained by The Post include shots of soldiers simulating sexually explicit acts with one another and shots of a cow being skinned and gutted and soldiers posing with its severed head. There are also dozens of pictures of a cat's severed head....

Other photographs show wounded men and dead bodies. In one, a dead man is lying in the back of a truck, his shirt, face and left arm covered in blood. His right arm is missing. Another photograph shows a dead body, gray and decomposing. A young soldier is leaning over the corpse, smiling broadly and giving the "thumbs-up" sign.

And in another picture a young woman lifts her shirt, exposing her breasts. She is wearing a white band with numbers on her wrist, but it is unclear if she is a prisoner.

Another photograph of a naked man with a dark hood over his head, handcuffed to a cell door. And another of a naked man handcuffed to a bunk bed, his arms splayed so wide that his back is arched...

A picture shows a soldier holding a leash tied around a naked man's neck in an Iraqi prison....

drudgereport.com...

So when does it stop. All of you thought that this was an isolated incident of a few bad soldiers. Of course, the Colonel knew better. This is what we represent worldwide. This is what people see of us. When doe sit stop. When will we say this is enough....or is this what Bush's America represents?

"The shame is so deep that Hayder Sabbar Abd feels he cannot move back to his old neighbourhood . He would prefer not even to stay in Iraq."

www.theage.com.au...



[Edited on 5-5-2004 by Colonel]



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 10:28 PM by Seth Bullock


A secure United States facility....

Heavily guarded by US Marines...

Inside, US personnel sexually abusing people...

Is it an Iraqi POW camp or the Clinton White House!

Perhaps these soldiers idnetify more with their former Commander-in-Chief than their current one.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 10:31 PM by Seekerof


The damage has and is being done.
Hopefully things will be rectified.
More pictures are merely hyping it into oblivion.


seekerof



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 10:39 PM by jetsetter


You are right. I am tired of a few troops causing bad press for all the troops. You should show photos of the soldiers building schools and helping people, then we will talk.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 10:42 PM by drunk


Since these are from Drudge report i am convinced now they are fake. I will not believe anything they show on the net.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 10:53 PM by ashley


Hopefully things will be rectified.

Maybe not the best choice of words. Considering the sodomy and rape of under age girls and stuff.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:11 PM by Seth Bullock



Originally posted by ashley

Maybe not the best choice of words. Considering the sodomy and rape of under age girls and stuff.



I'm sorry? Am I missing something here? Are you saying US troops in Iraq are sodomizing and raping underage girls?

Can you substantiate this?



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:15 PM by jetsetter


Man, you believe anything that is said to you.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:24 PM by drunk



Originally posted by ashley
Hopefully things will be rectified.

Maybe not the best choice of words. Considering the sodomy and rape of under age girls and stuff.



Err are you guessing? cos the photos clearly show men an WOMEN.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:38 PM by ashley


I just looked and couldn't find it but the other day, maybe yesterday. I read about a soldier talking about his buddy who would be talking about the underage girls he was raping and calling them pre-taliban or pre-queda. One of those.
Ill keep looking. Maybe tomorrow, but if its out there its probably true. There is not much that has come up and then turned out false.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:40 PM by drunk


Ashley if you can find a link that'd be cool another twist in this saga will get people thinking i reckon.

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by drunk]



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:42 PM by Seth Bullock



Originally posted by ashley
There is not much that has come up and then turned out false.


Bet this one does!



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:50 PM by curme



Originally posted by Seth Bullock

Originally posted by ashley
There is not much that has come up and then turned out false.


Bet this one does!


These are fakes HERE
and HERE
I just wanted to say that before people started posting these pics as fact. I've already started seeing them on ATS.



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reply posted on 5-5-2004 @ 11:56 PM by CazMedia


I think we all agree this behaivior is unacceptable, especially from those representing the USA.
BUT
Colonel says;
"When will we say this is enough....or is this what Bush's America represents?"

I think the President himself said repeatedly this is enough.......
What I find amusing is how we can look at this case and leap from front line soldiers (guarding prisoners) to blaming Bush for these acts....

I'd say what this represents is that not all Americans actually use their brains...If you find yourself wearing the military uniform of your country, in a generally hostile land, during conflict, and your guarding POW's, youd think youd be very aware of the stakes happening around you.

I can understand normally peaceful people being put into this stressful and confusing situation of war...these guards were probably not fully professionally trained to be doing what they were charged to do..they got cought up in gloating over their defeated enemy...blowing off their frustrations in the worst possible way, then being stupid enough to take pictures of their antics...

But lets overlook the individual soldiers that commited these acts and blame Bush....
Also much like in a seperate thread, it apears that colonel is willing to utilize pictures of people being abused or dead in order to support his political adgenda against republicans and Bush.

Im NOT saying hide the pics or censor information...but just read the inflamatory HYPE some attatch to this and how they then are so willing to use others suffering to further their cause also while using this same suffering as a weapon against their opponents....

Or is it ok that these prisoners will now keep being used as pawns as their images are co-opted by those seeking to gain from their pain.



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 03:23 PM by ashley


Ahhh, here we go. No wonder i couldnt find it yesterday. Its rag-head what they call them. Anyways.www.yellowtimes.org...



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 03:26 PM by ashley


www.yellowtimes.org...

Sorry, thats better.



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 03:33 PM by Variable


Ashley, everyone knows if it is one the Internet it must be true!



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 03:40 PM by RedOctober90


In every war there is a fair share of torture, rape, casualties.. and all that stuff. Something to get used to.



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 04:02 PM by Affirmative Reaction



Originally posted by ashley
www.yellowtimes.org...

Sorry, thats better.



Excuse me, read the title of the online "newspapaer"....

"ALTERNATE NEWS"


Alternate meaning wildass lies..... I believe there was a story already posted about the picture in question with Boudreaux stating that it was proven to be a photo-shop fake. In addition, there are many pictures added on the anti american sites to show what appears to be servicemen raping an Arab woman in the desert somewhere. These are also fakes, and are actually part of a porno movie....



[Edited on 6-5-2004 by Affirmative Reaction]



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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 04:08 PM by Crash


Tbh i think certain "bodys" in the middle east would do the same to people of the western world

BUT

It is not acceptable from the soilders who are doing it

Also i DO NOT Blame Bush or America for it as its not Bushs fault as he carnt do anything physicaly about it as people are their own indevidual i blame the ones who did it

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by Crash]



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