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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:33 PM by Helig
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Interesting, its not even showing up in the tropical/'cane section of Weather Underground. More worrying is Invest 93 down around the gulf which may
begin hungrily scarfing up the warm gulf water and crossing to the US side before chewing up something.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:39 PM by brokenheadphonez
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As per Environment Canada:
Marine Forecast Winds Issued
10:30 AM PDT 27 June 2009
Today Tonight and Sunday
Gale warning in effect. Wind southwest 25 to 35 knots becoming 20 to 30 late this afternoon then becoming westerly 20 early Sunday morning.
Wind diminishing to westerly 10 Sunday evening.
Waves
Issued 02:00 AM PDT
27 June 2009
Today Tonight and Sunday
Seas 3 to 4 metres building to 3 to 5 early this afternoon then subsiding to 4 overnight. Seas subsiding to 3 Sunday morning and to 2 Sunday
evening. Extended Forecast
Issued 04:00 AM PDT 27 June 2009 Monday Wind northwest 20 to 30 knots. Tuesday Wind northwest 10 to 20 knots. Wednesday Wind northwest 10 to 20 knots.
Weather & Visibility
Issued 10:30 AM PDT 27 June 2009 Today Tonight and Sunday A few showers.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:40 PM by liveandlearn
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I found this. So apparently they are known...just not considered tropical.
Mission News
But tropical cyclones aren't the only storms that generate hurricane-force winds. Among others that do is a type of storm that dominates the
weather in parts of the United States and other non-tropical regions every fall, winter and into spring: extratropical cyclones.
Extratropical Cyclones: Meteorological 'Bombs'
Scientists have long known that extratropical cyclones (also known as mid-latitude or baroclinic storms) sometimes produce hurricane-force winds. But
before QuikScat, hurricane-force extratropical cyclones were thought to be relatively rare. Thanks to QuikScat, we now know that such storms occur
much more frequently than previously believed, and the satellite has given forecasters an effective tool for routinely and consistently detecting and
forecasting them.
These storms, which occur near busy trans-oceanic shipping lanes, pose a significant threat to life and property for those on the high seas,
generating high winds and waves up to 30 meters (100 feet) high. When they make landfall, in areas like Alaska, the Pacific Northwest, New England and
the U.S. mid-Atlantic coast, they produce strong winds, high surf, coastal flooding, heavy rains, river flooding and even blizzard conditions.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:48 PM by ChemBreather
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awesome, more Extrastuff, next is when the horrible lightnings start, then we will have Extraordinary strong Lightning storms, and it slides in under
the 'norm of things' and 1000's of people will die because the are lead to belive it is normal and nothing to worry about ..
 I say, huge storm ahead in places that are unusual and times when it is unusual, remember my words Dudettes, this wil come ..
has started actualy and we will get a glimpse of the coming years ahead.
Salute, trust the lies and hope for the best ..
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:52 PM by brokenheadphonez
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Thanks liveandlearn! Now I can start pulling papers.
On a side note, isn't it an amazing time - when so many people from so many different places can share ideas and real time information and learn so
much from each other?
I can't get the strikestarUS page to load for some reason, but I'll for sure keep an eye on the
Environment Canada Lightning Detection site..
Compared to the current jetstream
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:59 PM by redhead57
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I did have to go back to the NOAA map and look further south and did find it. One thing I hate about being American is I have so little concept of
meters and Celsius... and little knowledge of knots either.
I know that tropical storm winds are anything over 40 mph and hurricanes is over 70.
It is a nasty looking system and I would hope not one boat is out there under that mess.
I agree that the computer age is one great time to be alive. I often laugh when I think about the old Get Smart shoe when I was a kid. Now we have
every one of the cool things Maxwell had. Glad that phones aren't shoes though.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:59 PM by titorite
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I like those other photos better.. I hope you can upload new ones soon.. I found the Alaskan Radar on weather wunderground to be OK but still yours
shows that very small and clearly defined eye in the center... the rest of the mass is just swirling around it ...
Creppy find.... Do you know if this tropical whatever it is is moving west or south?
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:02 PM by argentus
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It's a cold-core low, as opposed to a warm-core, as in tropical cyclones. Expected conditions are 40-50 knot winds. Sea surface storm warnings in
effect: Forecast
nice and symmetrical. Not particularly rare, but interesting to study.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:04 PM by brokenheadphonez
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:07 PM by liveandlearn
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reply to post by brokenheadphonez
On a side note, isn't it an amazing time - when so many people from so many different places can share ideas and real time information and learn so
much from each other?
You are so right. I have learned a lot here. Had you not posted I would never have known to look it up.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:15 PM by badmedia
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I take it you guys don't watch Deadliest Catch?
In the episode they showed 2 weeks ago, which was shot much sooner I would imagine, they had 40-50 knot winds, and 40 foot seas.
The storms up there can get to be pretty violent.
Images, as well as the zone in which they form included in the link below.
Extratropical cyclone
Extratropical cyclones, sometimes called mid-latitude cyclones or wave cyclones, are a group of cyclones defined as synoptic scale low pressure
weather systems that occur in the middle latitudes of the Earth (outside the tropics) having neither tropical nor polar characteristics, and are
connected with fronts and horizontal gradients in temperature and dew point otherwise known as "baroclinic zones".[1] Extratropical cyclones are the
everyday phenomena which, along with anticyclones, drive the weather over much of the Earth, producing anything from cloudiness and mild showers to
heavy gales and thunderstorms.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:33 PM by brokenheadphonez
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Haha no, I don't usually watch too much TV personally. Thanks for the link, so is it fair to say that this is ... An almost hurricane off of the
coasts of Alaska/BC/the Yukon?
Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge, thoughts, and links.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:38 PM by brokenheadphonez
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Captured this:
Here's an animation showing the formation in way more detail. Fascinating.
Go to the bottom of the page and press the "ALL" images radio button, then the play button at the top.
Infrared:
www.weatheroffice.gc.ca...
And visible:
www.weatheroffice.gc.ca...
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:00 PM by matsplat
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Probably an irrelevant
AND many people still are unsure / unconvinced
but this interesting crop formation appeared not too long ago....
www.cropcircleconnector.com...
from www.cropcircleconnector.com...
don't know why exactly, but I drew the impression of wind from this.
or maybe solar wind, the item in the centre perhaps being the sun.
We've had a recent re-awakening of the sun in terms of activity.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:10 PM by brokenheadphonez
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I think the circles are beautiful, but I think they're like Rorschach test's and due to their geometric and/or fractal patterns it's really hard to
accurately interpret them.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:18 PM by starscape
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I lived on the west coast for most of my life. It looks like a pretty normal storm. A bit late/early for this time of year, but with NOAA predicting a
return to El Nino conditions this summer it doesn't seem strange to me. The winds aren't particularly high or out of the range of normal in my
experience.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:21 PM by badmedia
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Originally posted by brokenheadphonez
reply to post by badmedia
Haha no, I don't usually watch too much TV personally. Thanks for the link, so is it fair to say that this is ... An almost hurricane off of the
coasts of Alaska/BC/the Yukon?
Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge, thoughts, and links.
I don't know too much about it honestly.
I once had to make a site that included weather reporting which worked off feeds from the weather channel. They would only give us the current
images in the feed, nothing animated. So I took and saved the images over time and wrote a little program that turned them into animations.
The animations I put out to the public were over a time period of 4 hours worth, and it repeated over and over like you would see on TV. But
privately, I kept an animation that ended up having over 6 months of weather in a single animated image. And I would watch the animation all the
time and I would see odd things like what you see about them.
I also noticed the British get some crazy weather patterns. So if you want to see more "oddities" you should check that area out as well. They
were odd to me anyway, maybe not so much to them.
It was really cool stuff, but I ended up losing the image in a computer crash, and once the site was done and sold, I didn't have access to have it
make another. If anyone wants to shell out $1500 a month for the feeds, I'll make another.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:39 PM by brokenheadphonez
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The furthest I can go so far is 36 hours, but there's a striking similarity to some of the solar weather patterns I've been looking at too, maybe
because it's fractal ...
Sucks that you lost that image, I'd have loved to have seen it. I'm gonna go on a search after I finish cooking dinner.
mmm chicken fried rice with snow peas, celery, corn, egg, sprouts, and my special blend of spices and kikkoman mMMm
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 05:56 PM by brokenheadphonez
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The event is now out of GOES coverage area.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 06:16 PM by brokenheadphonez
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I was able to access StrikeStar lightning strike data..
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