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China to Control World within 2 Years

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posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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China is setting themselves up to be the superpower of the world, they will be taking the title from the U.S., I would estimate within 2 years.

A senior communist Chinese Communist Party Researcher says China needs to buy Gold to hedge against the U.S. dollar. He feels the Yuan will be the trading currency in the future and China needs to have more gold to back it.

China has been purchasing resources of other countries for the last few months for
China's growing economy. It is also stated, China should start purchasing land within the U.S. with their dollars. China has increased their gold reserves to 1054 tonnes from 600 tonnes since 2003. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is slated to sell 400+ tonnes of Gold from their reserves in the next few months, it has been hinted at, that China will purchase all of it from the IMF.

Sinopec, China's largest oil refiner, agreed on Wednesday to buy Swiss oil explorer Addax Petroleum Corp for $7.24 billion in China's biggest overseas acquisition.


China has the manufacturing base, as the U.S. does not now, so they will be able to control the products of the world. China will own the energy and other natural resources throughout the world. They will probably own land and important real estate throughout the world also, including inside the United States.

For all those people who believe China needs us, well you may be in for a rude awakening, as China is positioning themselves for almost every other country, to need them in the future. They will control the world's resources and products.

I have no doubt when China has fully positioned themselves by getting rid of the the majority of their U.S. debt reserves by purchasing resources throughout the world, prime and important real estate throughout the world, backing the yuan by a gold standard and have made enough agreements with other countries for using the yuan as a reserve and trading currency, in one full swoop it will hit the U.S. and those people who have not been paying attention hard.

China will have the control to pull the rug out from the U.S. in one go, or they can continue to let the U.S. slowly but surely decline. They are the ones who have the control NOT the United States. Oh, if you don't believe that, then you are hiding your head in the sand and not looking at the situation honestly in the United States.

Also, if you think the U.S. is rich in gold, you may want to think again! The U.S. has not allowed an accounting or audit of the supposed gold at Fort Knox since Eisenhower was President. Many many groups have asked for an independent audit of the gold and release to the public how much is there, but all have been refused. Why? Is that why Nixon took the U.S. off the gold standard in 1971, because there was no gold to back the paper money?

I listened to a radio program online a couple of months ago, the person was an international gold trader. The person mentioned there was "melt" on the market being sold. Everyone who is in the gold business knew that the only entity/country who would be selling "melt" as what was on the market was the United States. The U.S. is the only country that had ever confiscated gold from their citizens in the 1930s and melted it. He also stated, by there being melt on the international gold market for sale, that meant that "someone" was at the bottom of their barrel of gold.

The next question is, when will those countries holding the United States debt demand for an audit of the Fort Knox, besides the United States action groups? Will the U.S. deny the demands? I would think so, because I also believe the U.S. does not have any gold left. Otherwise they would not have refused every demand for an audit, they would have opened the vaults to stop the rumours and accusations of the U.S. no longer having any gold for over 30 years.

People need to look at the situation without rose colored glasses and take the "red" pill. China will be the superpower of the world and they will start controlling what happens in the world along with all the resources. The United States once the dollar has lost it's reserved currency status, along with the truth of Fort Knox gold, others will not buy our debt and our dollar will hyperinflate. The truth is hard to swallow, but if you don't acknowledge the truth now, you will not have positioned yourself for the coming changes and will be lost like the majority of the population of the U.S.. Look at the situation honestly don't be taken by surprise and shock at what the future of the U.S. will be.

LINKS to corresponding articles: www.mineweb.co.za...

www.timesonline.co.uk...




posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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IMHO this is just fear mongering so that the powers that be can give the FED more power under the guise that they can save the day from the Chinese.



smoke and mirrors



[edit on 25-6-2009 by warrenb]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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So? Is this a bad thing?

What goes up must come down. How could America possibly stay king of the hill when they spend so much and produce so little. Good on China for taking the crown, America dug it's own hole and has itself to blame.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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As an american, I must agree. The USA is a very new country, which rose to power very fast. We have now grown soft and lazy and I also feel it will be someone elses turn.

I fight locally for freedom from our socialist tendencies daily. But I am also aware that nations evolve...



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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Hi QA

Anyway, I believe you’re right and in more ways than one.

I’ve noticed some very disturbing *goings on* here (Sicily) and I’m telling you - it’s a lot more than just the gold and currency the Chinese are going to control.

They’re going to own us all.

The Million Man pawns are almost all in place I’m tellin’ ya...

Call me nuts I don’t care, I see it first hand.

Thanks for the post QA!

(Missed you around the Yydryl.)
hugs
gracie



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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Here's a thread i posted earlier. China probably know more about the US and EU than we know about them.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

May 2008: Tony Blair Addresses Yale Students on Shift in World Power.
tonyblairoffice.org...

In fact, if I had to sum up my view of the world, I would say to you: turn your thoughts to the East. Not just to the Middle East. But to the Far East.

For the first time in many centuries, power is moving East. China and India each have populations roughly double those of America and Europe combined.

In the next two decades, these two countries together will undergo industrialisation four times the size of the USA's and at five times the speed.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 10:50 AM
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The problem with the OP is that it's dependent on backing Chinese currency with resources that can't possibly soak up all the value of Chinese surpluses. The world's gold mines produce 80 million troy ounces of gold a year, and if China somehow manages to buy up all of that gold, it would cause prices to soar to unimaginable heights, and still would only account for about a month's worth of what China needs on an annual basis. In short, China can't simply "buy up the world's resources" because a) there aren't enough to finance them, and b) it's more complicated than that.

China's economy is almost completely dependent upon international trade, and if they were to abandon debt markets for hard resource markets, they would collapse the economies of the countries that finance their growth through consumerism and debt purchase, which would thus cause their economy to collapse.

Also, if China was to back their currency with resources instead of debt, they would cause the Yuan to skyrocket in value, which would make Chinese products (finally) more expensive or just as expensive as 1st world economies. To keep the Yuan depressed, they would have sterilize their surpluses, i.e. they would literally have to burn the extra money they create through economic growth by requiring their banks to store massive cash reserves or by throwing their money in a fire and watching it light up the sky.

The Euro isn't a viable place to move their debt trading to because the Eurozone doesn't have a unified monetary policy, so say for instance they start buying up German or Spanish assets, they would also be at the whim of French monetary policies that can completely differ but still affect the value of the Euro.

Also, there are no European economies that can soak up the amount of debt buying China needs and who also have a AAA credit rating.


There's a lot of gloom and doom and "ooh scary China" stuff going around right now, but if you know how the system works, you know China has no realistic economic options other than to sink its money into the US debt markets. The dollar is still a safe bet, the US can still handle trillions of dollars of debt, and the US still has a AAA credit rating. China may not like having to depend on our economy to finance itself through our debt, but there is no other realistic way of doing it. All you have to do is look at the real numbers and options out there to see that.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by questioningall
China is setting themselves up to be the superpower of the world, they will be taking the title from the U.S., I would estimate within 2 years.


France or the UK have the same military spending and similar GDP output as China.. What makes you think China will be anymore of a power than these two countries for the next two years?

If the USD collapses, there will be a power vacuum but China will not be the only one grabbing for it as it is not a superpower yet. And the system of buying debt doesn't really work like that..

China is stuck in a catch 22 with the west and must support the US in its bad times order to continue to grow. If China begins to ditch US debt for resources, resource prices will skyrocket, as will the Yuan, hence making them uncompetitive and that would completely destroy them. Yes, they have large reserves but in order to become a superpower, it will need to spend large portions of these reserves in order to educate its population in develop its infrastructure to support its new economic power instead of buying debt, resources, industry and land in other countries.

Also, don't forget about the new EU constitution that is in the works... If Ireland ratify it - EU superstate ETA 10 years. Even IF the US becomes less powerful than China in the next decade.. 2 years is completely unrealistic IMO.. The EU is almost a third of the worlds GDP and in the next couple of years will have a president, full parliament, foreign office and a combined military spending that is ten times that of China..

Top that off with the fact that the West sticks together despite little disagreements and while the BRIC nations are coming out of their shells, the EU/US will continue to tighten cross atlantic relations in order to ensure the West stays ahead of the game...

Between the US and EU, the economic output will continue to grow and as China catches up with our level of development, we will become industrialized again and begin to counter them at their own game..

Yes China is an emerging economic and military super power but the US will retain its status as a superpower and as the EU becomes a superstate over the next couple of decades, China will look less and less as a threat to the west and more of an investment opportunity for us because it is becoming a massive market and we are the ones with the skills to crack it from the outside.


[edit on 25/6/09 by Dermo]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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I guess you guys need to go learn another language now eh?



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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China's elite secret police



Source



on a side note, is it just me or in those pics do they look like women? Look at the shape of their lips and finger nails.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Definitely looks like females to me, including their eyes.

I had read a few days ago, don't remember where saying there was an agreement between the U.S and China that allows them to come into the U.S with their military. I don't remember exactly where I read it, but it was a reliable source from what I remember.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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I'm not so sure about some of the claims though?


Source
Rank Country/Organization Gold
(tonnes) Gold's share
of total
forex reserves (%)[6]
1 Europe Eurozone 11,065.0 76.5%
2 the United States 8,133.5 78.9%
3 Germany 3,412.6 71.5%
4 International Monetary Fund 3,217.3 -
5 France 2,487.1 72.6%
6 Italy 2,451.8 66.5%
7 People's Republic of China 1,054.0[9] 0.9%
8 Switzerland 1,040.1 41.1%


Well who hasn't seen this coming? Here we go...
Contrary to "Pop Culture " Beliefs the US and EU are still the big dogs. This can get ugly real fast. With the shrinking of the US manufacturing sector from the glory days of over 30% of world production now down to 21% and falling. It is becoming very apparent the US needs to start Manufacturing again. But how can one compete on an uneven playing field?



Some feel our real problem is not under manufacturing but over consumption our industries cannot keep up with our own demands. All too often too many statements are made that only increase the confusion of the reality of the situation. Yes the US has lost manufacturing jobs. Yes our industry is on the decline. No arguments there. But there are many ways to judge the situation. I even wrote a thread on topic Here I understand all too well. No need to preach to the choir.

Most of what the US does produce are higher end higher technology that the average consumer would not see or is even aware of they would not find them on the shelves at Walmart. Heres the kicker they are not all defense related either.
Source

World’s largest manufacturer
Published 6/23/09
Filed under: Miscellaneous, Politics

What country is the world’s largest manufacturer by a huge margin? If you have a kid, you would think it must be China — I don’t know the last time I saw I toy (or anything else, really) that wasn’t made there.

Wrong.

Accounting for more than 20% of the world’s total manufacturing output is the United States.

Japan is a distant second at just over 13%. Then China (12%), and Germany (8.2%). Then, well, everyone else. (Data come from the Dept. of Labor and the United Nations.)


Revenue Leaders by Nation
Country/Province Number of Companies Revenue Total (Millions) Average Company Revenue Growth (%)*
United States 290 $5,386,377 10.50
Japan 233 $3,624,074 6.74
Germany 40 $1,269,963 11.97
France 48 $1,103,959 4.23
United Kingdom 36 $882,521 17.30
China 36 $606,892 19.74
Netherlands 13 $599,939 7.97
South Korea 37 $574,252 27.46
Switzerland 21 $364,031 2.90
Italy 15 $356,603 5.75
Russia 8 $338,870 32.37
Canada 27 $335,500 24.20
Taiwan 29 $328,564 5.47
India 12 $206,903 48.20
Finland 16 $189,505 0.56
Brazil 10 $184,523 23.04
Sweden 14 $161,619 6.29
Spain 6 $149,468 7.73
Luxembourg 3 $145,569 14.33
Australia 12 $143,580 38.52
*Manufacturers that did not appear on the 2008 IW 1000 list were not included in revenue growth averages.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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Hi QA! Hugs also.
I agree we need to watch the haps in china AND russia, also!
Here are some Time articles, maybe they will shed some light.

Why China's Banks Are Stronger than America's



What was up is now down and the other way around, and it's going to stay that way for some time. Former powerhouses such as Bank of America and Citicorp have turned into shadows of their former selves as they shed assets and withdraw from foreign markets. Meanwhile, lenders in China and India that are little known outside their home countries now have the wherewithal to expand internationally. They have the potential to become the Citicorps of tomorrow.

www.time.com...

I also read where china is buying up raw resources like crazy.

Buying Binge


www.time.com...



[edit on 26-6-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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Hugs back!!

Thank you for that article, very informative.

China has definitely been on a buying spree, very smart. They are positioning themselves for controlling resources everywhere.

There will be many ramifications of them purchasing so much, from availability to pricing.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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The US has already positioned itself to become a third world country by letting our infrastructure crumble to pieces.

Such plans stand in stark contrast to the federal government's strategy today. America invests a mere 2.4% of GDP in infrastructure, compared with 5% in Europe and 9% in China, and the distribution of that money is misguided.

Our infrastructure is one of the things that brought us to superpower status. I know we have increased the % in the new budget, but it is not enough and it's already too late.

For the past few years it has been hard to ignore America's crumbling infrastructure, from the devastating breach of New Orleans's levees after Hurricane Katrina to the collapse of a big bridge in Minneapolis last summer

Most of our bridges, levees, roads, water lines, and electric grid are either way over due or due within the next 10 years to be replaced.

In 2005 the American Society of Civil Engineers estimated that $1.6 trillion was needed over five years to bring just the existing infrastructure into good repair. This does not account for future needs. By 2020 freight volumes are projected to be 70% greater than in 1998. By 2050 America's population is expected to reach 420m, 50% more than in 2000. Much of this growth will take place in metropolitan areas, where the infrastructure is already run down

Just like third world countries, we can expect rolling black outs constantly, interrupted commerce, tainted water supplies, and more tragedies like Minnesota. So congratulations US government, you have made it very easy for China to take control. So just keep wasting money studying co2 gases and cow methane output instead of rebuilding our country. Thanks!!

scienceblogs.com...

[edit on 26-6-2009 by sickofitall2012]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by BetweenMyths

May 2008: Tony Blair Addresses Yale Students on Shift in World Power.
tonyblairoffice.org...


In the next two decades, these two countries together will undergo industrialisation four times the size of the USA's and at five times the speed.


The problem with that assumption is if it were true then that would mean they would fall from power 20x quicker. That estimate would actually be giving them the benefit of the doubt. Chances are it would be exponentially even faster due to their massive size.

Why is that? The more your produce and the faster you produce it the more money you burn, the more products become obsolete and the larger the loss in investment. Job gains then start to dwarf job losses. Inferior products quickly become known and people pay more for better products. The more you produce of these products the quicker it's known that they are junk. Hence the reason infomercials on late night make good money. Enough people buy a product from one guy that it makes him rich but not so much that the world knows it's junk.

Or another good example is gateway. In it's origin it was one of the best computers to own and why? One guy and his family members built quality computers in a barn quite literally. They became big and sold out to another company. That company went for quantity and what do you know everyone I knew stayed far away from them, not because of quantity, but because the quality went way down hill just due to massive reproduction using cheap parts and it was very apparent, plus a good price hike. But hey when you sign a contract with the US govt. who needs quality right?

Point being if China did make it big and those numbers are correct they will fall to lows the world has never seen before.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Actually that makes sense in a way.
If the US became then peaked as the world leader in little over 60 years then at that rate China will become and then peak in like 5 or 10 years then contract.


[edit on 26-6-2009 by SLAYER69]



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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It seems that China is not expanding at a fast enough rate for the HSBC Bank and the empire. From the speech at the Royal Society of the Arts (John Adam Street Gang), by Michael Geoghegan on October 4th, 2010:

'It goes without saying that many Western businesses have put China at the heart of their strategy. But I am not sure that they are moving deep enough, and fast enough - beyond the gateways of Beijing and Shanghai.'

Lecture: www.youtube.com...

Transcript of speech available here:

www.lifeinthemixtalk.com...

It's also worth noting a couple of other points. The John Adam Street Gang area (behind Charing Cross in London, and The Strand nearby) was described by Walter Besant as greater in significance than even Venice was, (and interesting that this is where this lecture takes place) and that China's male dominated population is the result of the west's Club of Rome and the UNFPA:

www.anthro.uci.edu...

www.freerepublic.com...

Medieval London, a City of Palaces:

www.britannia.com...




edit on 23-10-2010 by caz111 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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The main stream media was trying to say China was a bubble that's going to pop. It won't.

The chinese citizens can't declare bankruptcy. If they bought an apartment and lost their jobs, the Central Government will just keep them in their home until they get a job and keep getting money from that citizen until he dies.

Versus our economics: Citizen buys home for $450,000, loses job. Home is foreclosed and $250,000 gets lost when home is sold for $200,000. Then this citizen goes on to get another home and repeats the process. Lots of lost $$$$$$$$ for the bank.

Since the Chinese can't declare bankruptcy their bubble will not pop. The United States made China a SuperPower, if it wasn't for us giving them hundreds of Trillions they would still be picking rice in their fields.

We are a 3rd World country right now. The average person can't even make enough money to have a roof over their heads.



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