Off-duty officer shoots 2 in lot after Angels game, page 14
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 09:20 AM by KEMIK
Originally posted by Nutter
Originally posted by rcwj75
Originally posted by Nutter

Congratulations to you. You have just proven MY point. Had it been a regular guy, he would be sitting in jail. Thanks Jax.


Please show me an example of a citizen being locked up for defending himself and his family using a firearm! I would like to see it....


Your wish is my command.

Police arrested Antoine, a 27-year-old from Boynton Beach, Friday night on charges of second degree murder and attempted first degree murder.

Antoine's attorney, Kelly Landers, said Antoine was confronted by two "large" men who were armed around 3 a.m. Monday outside of Mystique Lounge in downtown West Palm Beach. Landers said the two men hit Antoine and then threatened to kill him.


www.palmbeachpost.com...

There's one. Need more?

He saw Lonny standing there. He said, what are you doing here Lonny? At that moment Lonny lunged toward the deacon. They both fell to the floor. The Deacon stuck his hand in his pocket to pull out the gun to scare Lonny. Lonny saw the gun and grabbed his hand. They struggled and the gun went off and shot Lonny once in the chest.

He fell over. Sam rushed to call to report the emergency. Lonny was pronounced dead at the scene. Sam was taken in for questioning. The police discovered the long running feud between Sam and Lonny. They also learned about Sams joking comments to get Lonny first. Sam was charged with premeditated murder.

Sam was held for several weeks in the city jail. After many consultations with his attorney and a new investigation, new evidence was presented that cleared Sam of murder charges.


www.articlesalley.com...

BTW, Sam didn't just get to walk home. He had to go under an investigation and was held for several weeks.

Need more?

BAKERSVILLE, Ohio — An eastern Ohio man says he killed a black bear in self defense because the bear charged at him — but he's been charged with shooting an endangered animal.

John Tanksley says his dog tried to chase the bear away from his property at Newcomerstown in Coshocton County but the animal kept coming back.

He says that when he and his girlfriend tried to get the dog back in the house on Wednesday the bear charged at them.

State wildlife officer Garth Goodyear describes the bear as "man-size" and weighing 165 pounds.

If Tanksley is convicted of the misdemeanor offense he could get up to one year behind bars and be fined $1,000.


www.foxnews.com...

And that one is just for shooting a bear in self defense.

No a NORMAL citizen as you guys put it would not be facing murder charges in this situation...again proved examples of your claims...not just blow smoke like most ATS meatheads who bash WITHOUT facts or knowledge of the incident....rather on pure hate and opinion.


Care to apologize for calling me a meathead and saying I bash without facts or knowledge? Thank you.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by Nutter]


Yes, this is all completely relevant to the topic.

I have a question. What would happen if you were out with your family, and a couple of people decided to attack you with "whatever". Would you give them a hug? Maybe, a handshake? Or resort to stopping the threat? Because clearly they were just going to attack you and not anyone else.

[edit on 26-6-2009 by KEMIK]


reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 10:09 AM by sos37
Originally posted by alyosha1981
reply to
post by CX



What kind of man alows conflict to escalate while he has his wife and kids with him anyways?


A man protecting his family. If I or my family were attacked and I had a gun on me I would most likely draw the weapon and fire in response first and ask questions later.

Those idiots attacking him got exactly what they deserved.


reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:53 PM by Nutter
reply to post by Kevin_X2



The examples where to show that even when a normal person has to defend themselves, they are subject to imprisonment (detention), lawyers fees to prove their innocence and sometimes even trial (which is very costly).

The point (which I have been saying all along) is that this cop will go through none of this because he is a cop (and therefore automatically innocent).

How many times do I have to say this?



reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:14 PM by UmbraSumus
Update


A Camp Pendleton Marine and his younger brother are under police custody at a hospital after they were shot by an off-duty police officer in the Angel Stadium parking lot Wednesday night. Police said they are trying to identify a fourth man who might involved in the confrontation.

source

This wasn`t any gang banger . What motivated them to throw bottles ? Not that there is any justification in a group of men throwing bottles at a solitary man , in the company of his family.

There is another side ...... we have yet to hear though.


Anaheim police policy goes on to say that weapons cannot be carried by any officer who has consumed an amount of an alcoholic beverage that could adversely affect the officer's senses or judgment. Martinez said it was unknown whether the off-duty officer had been drinking.

source

If an off duty- officer discharges their weapon , are they required to be breathalysed ?


Police have talked to about a dozen witnesses who said the men hit the veteran officer over the head with beer bottles, Martinez said.

source

There surely was a bit of verbal between them before the bottles flew ?


reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 09:49 PM by Nutter
reply to post by UmbraSumus



Thanks for the information. So, we can deduce that the man was not totally innocent then?
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