Neutron Stars, Pulsars, and Magnetars, page 2
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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 11:48 AM by mckyle
reply to post by jkrog08



More than welcome mate, you've been putting in some solid posts of late, and I've enjoyed reading through them immensely.

Please forgive my recent absence from the threads. Wanted to join in with you and Internos, mikesingh. et al, but snowed under at the moment. So I'm ostensibly in lurker mode.

[edit on 21-6-2009 by mckyle]


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 11:51 AM by jkrog08
reply to post by squiz



I appreciate any scientific insights, that is why I make threads like these,lol a educational/ research paper (from member input) type thing. Although I think that gravity is much more powerful than we think, it seems to be a 'smart' force. It isn't surprising if you think of gravity like Einstein, being a result of the curvature of spacetime. Why do we need gravitons or force carrying particles? I think both relativity and quantum mechanics are correct, as well some unknown things not discovered yet. I admit the insane amount of very confusing and odd string, brane, bosonic, etc, etc theories with the particle 'zoo' is as of now VERY QUESTIONABLE. But it seems like there is some proof of some of these being correct. I don't know, right now we are in over our heads to be honest with you.


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 11:52 AM by jkrog08
reply to post by mckyle



Not a problem, and thank you for including me in that GREAT company.



reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 06:54 PM by Kaytagg
reply to post by DangerDeath



Before you go embracing bogus theories spread on ATS, you should look at the existing literature (theories supported by observation) and then branch off into the fringe stuff.

Truth is stranger than fiction, anyways. Read up on quantum mechanics and relativity. It's all proven and it will blow your mind, unlike the 'electric universe theory.'


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 08:03 PM by DangerDeath
Originally posted by Kaytagg
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post by DangerDeath



Before you go embracing bogus theories spread on ATS, you should look at the existing literature (theories supported by observation) and then branch off into the fringe stuff.

Truth is stranger than fiction, anyways. Read up on quantum mechanics and relativity. It's all proven and it will blow your mind, unlike the 'electric universe theory.'



Oh well, I appreciate your advice, but I don't trust science so much since it always discovers new things which are contradictory to the present information they possess. Same happened to quantum physics, it was shunned at the beginning.

The fact is, those magnetars certainly have to do with electricity, don't they? Isn't magnetism closely related to electricity? Not necessarily electric "current", but the structure of atoms can create magnetic field and vice versus. And if the star (magnetar) is made of neutrons, where does the magnetism come from?

Also, it is a fact that no one really understands electricity. It is there, but if it is in neutron stars, how is that possible, since there is no difference in potential like between protons and electrons?


It is really easy to conceive a hypothesis. A supernova explosion expels all protons and electrons, and the remains are expelled later in bursts and that's what constitutes a pulsar. It actually radiates electricity... That's why neutrons stay in place.

Or, neutrons "produce" positrons and electrons in equal proportion...


If we strictly observe all matter as waves, theory of electric cosmos actually makes a lot of sense. Change in frequency is realized as different matter (transmutation). All particles have their own frequency.

Insulation is half of a transistor, isn't it? Insulators can be used to redirect electrical current. Computer processors, printed circuits, are very much like that. We don't know what is the "structure" of neutron stars on subatomic level. It could just be such to direct electrical current and offer no resistance by the way. Perhaps it can even behave as a catalyst. Definitely a source.

Frankly, science knows so little about neutron stars, and even less about quasars (which are curiously missing from this thread).



Cosmos is not vain
All is filled with
Sarcasm



[edit on 21-6-2009 by DangerDeath]


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 08:38 PM by jkrog08
Thank you everybody for your kind words, I am glad so many people have liked this thread.




Why I left quasars out is the same reason I left black holes out, that in its self would be a whole OP, with those two. Plus this was more about stars, and black holes and quasars are not stars technically. A quasar is a "quasi star", it is star like because it emits light, but other than that there is nothing else in common with a star. Plus it is still unknown what they are, they are very old as well and do not exist anymore (more than likely). Scientists are arguing between a early phase of a galaxy or some unknown galaxy that is interacting strangely with its super massive black hole. Of course black holes are simply singularities of near infinite mass and density within a zero volume of no dimensions. The curvature of spacetime thus becomes infinite.




Neutron stars are comprised of a crystallized iron crust and a dense neutronic fluid (thus pulsars and magnetars are too) and rotate very rapidly. This causes a magnetic field, also inside of the crystalline iron crust there is a neutron fluid, which was created by the extreme compression on the subatomic scale of electrons and protons-this makes neutrons. The convection currents of the neutronic fluid inside the star (caused by the rotation) creates electric currents, which in turn creates very strong magnetic fields. The way a neutron star functions is well explained in quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, electrodynamics , and magnetic physics, as well tectonic physics. The very fact that these stars exist pretty much prove that our fundamental theories are correct. In essence a neutron star (and this has been said before) could be looked at as a large scale version of an atom, but this is not the correct observation, it is only a lose analogy.

[edit on 6/21/2009 by jkrog08]


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 09:01 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by HooHaa



Thanks, and no problem.


The Universe on History Channel is GREAT for learning basic to intermediate knowledge on things. I can not say enough about that show, we watched it many times in my astronomy 101 class last year, so that should say a lot. It is the best series History as ever had IMHO.


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:24 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by Alaskan Man



Great addition

Yes, the Universe is HUGE and likely infinite, some of those hypergiant stars are ridiculous, you can bet they will likely end up as a black hole. It is crazy that we can now predict that stuff. LOL, it is like the wait for the big event.


reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 11:22 PM by dainoyfb
This is what realy put it all into perspective for me. It is a website that lets you listen to the sounds of some famous pulsars.
It is difficult to concieve that something the mass of a star is rotating so fast that it sounds like a dentists drill.
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